Gueze and Lambic drinkers: Do pellicles bother you?

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  1. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,248) Jun 9, 2006 Colorado
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    Will you still buy a bottle of lambic if it has a pellicle or yeasty gunk around the inside of the neck?
     
  2. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Depends on the brewer, the price and how bad I want the bottle.

    Cheers!
     
  3. bootlegger1929

    bootlegger1929 Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2010 Illinois

    Yup. If its 3F or Cantillon.
     
  4. kmatlack

    kmatlack Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2010 California

    Not anymore. Bought a 3F Oude Kreik with a bunch of bullshit all in the neck. Tasted terrible. Like a handful of pennies.
     
  5. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Lame. I've been through about about half a case of 375's of 2007 3F kriek that had incredibly gunked up necks. Wasn't the best kriek I've had, but I still enjoyed them all greatly.
     
  6. kmatlack

    kmatlack Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2010 California

    Hmm... Maybe there was something different about the specific bottle i had. Had 3-4 other people give it a taste and we all agree it tasted like hate sex.
     
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  7. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Lol. The bottles I had were stashed away in a cooler for 4 years. Might just come down to storage if it was an older bottle. The aroma on mine was a bit rubbery/unpleasant but the taste was spot on for a kriek.

    Crap around the neck really wouldn't scare me away from buying a lambic. If it were a fantome I would run away though.
     
  8. DavoleBomb

    DavoleBomb Pooh-Bah (2,277) Mar 29, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Never encountered a pellicle, so I don't know.
     
  9. tsauce2

    tsauce2 Savant (1,138) Oct 12, 2011 Indiana
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    Generally speaking, no. Heck no. If it was a Cantillion or 3F, maybe.
     
  10. wyatt

    wyatt Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2009 Louisiana

    Yeah. Does anyone have pictures? How much gunk are we talking about.
     
  11. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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  12. RandomName7

    RandomName7 Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2012 Washington

    Had a bottle of Gueuze Tilquin that had what looked like snot in the neck, but it tasted delicious... so whatever ^_^.
     
  13. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,248) Jun 9, 2006 Colorado
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    Yeah, I found some Girardin but the necks were gunky so I only bought two. When I took them home I laid them down and most of the gunk washed right back into the beer which made me feel a little bit better. I think I'll go back and grab some more. :sunglasses:
     
  14. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Do we know what causes this? Does it have anything to do with compromised seals/oxygen or is it just wild yeast being wild?
     
  15. wyatt

    wyatt Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2009 Louisiana

    i have had yeast in the neck from being on its side for some time and then stood up. not sure if that is the same thing.
     
  16. bootlegger1929

    bootlegger1929 Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2010 Illinois

    I'm pretty sure that's all it is. Most lambic brewers store all their beer and age all their beer laying down and even ship them laying down. Then they get to the states and sit on shelves upright and occasionally the yeast will cake to the sides and the neck.

    I don't really see it as an issue. But then I usually drink the dregs when I'm done with a bottle so take that with a grain of salt..
     
  17. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    This is different from sediment/yeast caking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellicle_(biology)
     
  18. bootlegger1929

    bootlegger1929 Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2010 Illinois

  19. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    A pellicle is a natural defense to protect it from oxygen. I don't think it's gross. Lambic is a somewhat aquired taste so being creeped out by a pellicle seems odd.
     
  20. mintjellie

    mintjellie Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2005 Canada (ON)

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