Cellaring Dogfish Head Festina Peche

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by JackHorzempa, Sep 11, 2013.

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Has anybody cellared Dogfish Head Festina Peche? If so, how long have you cellared this beer? How does cellaring affect this beer; for example does cellaring increase sourness? How long can this beer be cellared before the beer goes too stale?

    Any inputs are appreciated.

    Cheers!
     
  2. Deadmau5656

    Deadmau5656 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I had a four pack from last year in April. The beer held up really well considering the low ABV. The sour didn't seem to really change much but the peach was pretty much gone. I liked it a lot but only because I was craving something sour and the weather was a perfect fit for it. It hits the spot on a hot summer day.

    On a side note, I have heard it can become similar to vinegar. I don't know what conditions they were kept in though. I hope this helps OP.
     
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    Deadmau5656 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2011 Pennsylvania

  4. joey_c

    joey_c Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2012 California
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    I'm doing a 3 year vertical of DFH FP this evening at a bottle share. I'll try to remember to report back tomorrow.
     
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  5. weatherdog

    weatherdog Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Illinois

    Unless I'm mistaken, Festina Peche is not produced using lactobacillus bacteria but rather the addition of lactic acid to the beer to achieve the desired sourness. In this process the sour level is fixed and won't increase over time.
     
  6. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    I'd heard the same thing, but their website says otherwise.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Joey, I would love to hear about your tasting.

    Cheers!

    Jack
     
  8. joey_c

    joey_c Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2012 California
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    Didn't work out this week, probably will do it this coming Thursday.
     
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  9. weatherdog

    weatherdog Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Illinois

    Their website is purposely ambiguous and confusing about it, and for good reason if you look at it from their perspective. Who wants to be known for simply using lactic acid to sour their beers?

    Notice they call Festina Peche a "neo-Berliner Weiss" but the next paragraph say Berliner Weisses are "traditionally fermented with lactic cultures to produce its acidic character". Confusing no?
     
  10. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Agreed with being confusing. The peaches could make it neo though.
     
  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, DFH's website is very ambiguous to the point of sounding deceptive on the topic - the only* hint (other than anonymous, third party forums posts, etc) I ever found was a video Caligione put out several years back in which he noted they "...dialed back..." on the sourness for the new vintage because of consumer complaints the previous year. (Looks like it's still up on the beer's page on their website - starts around 0:40).

    Well, *"Only" until I came across this pro brewer's blog post a few weeks back and found this quote -

    ...blog is Joseph Lemnah's who now owns Burlington (VT) Brewing Co., formerly at Dogfish Head in 2007-08 period.
     
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  12. mikecharley

    mikecharley Savant (1,214) Nov 6, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    This beer sucks with cellaring. I had a 2008 bottle about a year ago, and it tasted like bad yogurt... Do Not Cellar!

    Edit: The bad yogurt flavor was not a bad bottle, as confirmed with a second bottle, tasting exactly the same.
     
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  13. bramsdell

    bramsdell Initiate (0) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    What would cause it to improve? It isn't bottle-conditioned. The sourness is pretty minimal. The peach might fade, but that flavor is really part of it.
     
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