Somewhat new to craft, need recommendations

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  1. Chillwave

    Chillwave Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2014 Florida


    Oh i know what you mean. Recently have been trying to get into stouts, though not a huge fan of coffee. Friend is sharing the stone saison he just recently got as well.
     
  2. TheFlern

    TheFlern Initiate (0) May 9, 2009 Idaho

    i would also advise that you avoid the temptation to "get into" a style. if you already know you don't like coffee then trying to get into stouts or porters could just be a huge waste of money, time, and calories. tastes change over time so trying to like a style now might not work. in 4 years you might be a huge stout fan but that is going to come with the natural changing of your tastebuds over time. you can't force these things and i see many many many posters who seem to try to be forcing themselves to like a style. i can tell you that the first time i tried a sour ale i absolutely hated it and drain poured it without a second though. fast forward 3 years and i began to love sour ales. they are still one of my favorite styles. i didn't try to force myself to like sour ales it was just a natural side effect of my taste buds and mindset changing through time.
     
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  3. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    This might be some of the best advice I've seen in the "help a newbie" threads. Variety is what makes beer so enjoyable...you don't have to stick to one thing. And it wouldn't matter if it is IPA's, stouts, or any other style - overdoing it they kind of take on a "sameness", but that's my opinion. Everybody's different and that's cool, but I think this piece of advice right here is spot on along with the follow up. It's all trial and error, and if there's nothing else there's LOTS of beahs out there - no limits, try this, try that, revisit styles and individual beers, have a few faves. Most importantly, have fun and don't get caught up in stressing over the "gotta haves".
     
  4. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,134) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    Is Swami IPA available in Florida?
     
  5. Chillwave

    Chillwave Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2014 Florida

    Ya i was already figuring that out. Though Ten FIDY was ok and same with Creme brulee by souther tier. I pretty much enjoy most amber ales, IPA/DIPA, and one fruit beer (Tangerine wheat) i have had so far. Which is why i have been hesitant to try the KBS i have and was thinking of trading it.

    I think i have had 1 or two sours but can't remember.
    Sculpin was amazing, still got 4 left. I'm not sure why but i get a pineapple taste from it as well
     
  6. Can_has_beer

    Can_has_beer Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Texas

    You gotta try Bourbon County!
     
  7. Chillwave

    Chillwave Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2014 Florida

    Well thankfully i have a bar across from where i will be living soon with 360 different beers, so there will be lots of variety. Should also have mentioned that i workout plenty, so i usually limit drinking on the weekends
     
  8. Roger85

    Roger85 Pundit (965) Aug 24, 2012 Illinois

    Anywhere close to Kane? They have some amazing brews there. Head High is a fantastic IPA.
     
  9. atrocity

    atrocity Pooh-Bah (2,264) Dec 18, 2013 Virginia
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    Invasion Pale Ale is pretty darn solid since others suggested Jai Alai already.
     
  10. elektrikjester

    elektrikjester Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2008 Georgia

    OP, your original post referenced KBS. But I believe that @rojapa was referring to regular (if that's the right word) Founders Breakfast Stout (http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/11757/). The two aren't exactly the same beer. People often think that FBS is the base beer for KBS, but Founders actually brews a slightly different beer just for KBS.

    However, they are close enough that trying some FBS first may allow you to better appreciate that KBS of yours. Others may tell you differently, but my experience has been to not save that KBS for too long. After too much time, the beer may lose some of the coffee flavor for which it is known. (By this point in the season, even FBS has probably begun to lose a little coffee flavor. But it does allow other flavors to come forward.)

    It's your choice to be sure. But I'd recommend having that KBS on a special occasion soon and not saving it for a special occasion in the distant future. I'd hate to see you not experience the best that beer has to offer. Again, just my opinion.

    I'm primarily a stout drinker, so I'll defer to others when it comes to IPAs.
     
  11. Chillwave

    Chillwave Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2014 Florida


    Thanks for pointing that out. Read the comment to fast. I know they are different but i think i might just trade KBS, since i am not a coffee fan.

    I was told KBS can last a while. Was also told Ten FIDY tastes better with age.
     
  12. Nlawrence301

    Nlawrence301 Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2013 Maryland

    You should definitely try :
    North coast Old Rasputin
    Lagunitas sucks!
    Oskar Blues Deviant Dales
    Victory Dirt wolf
    Lagunitas Lil' sumpin sumpin
    Southern choklat/ mokah
    Anything Firestone Walker makes
    Stone enjoy by
    Anything from Maine beer co. (Although their stuff is super pricey)
    Perennial Sump
    Any of the bourbon county shizz

    Those are my best suggestions, considering what you've said you really like thus far.
    I'd suggest tryin some classic Belgians... Saison DuPont, chimay ect.
    Just try anything and everything craft and enjoy!! Cheers!
     
  13. elektrikjester

    elektrikjester Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2008 Georgia

    Sure thing. Believe me, you probably could trade that KBS for something nice if IPAs are more your thing. On the other hand, it's a great beer that's always worth trying.

    KBS won't go bad, if that's what you mean. Beer doesn't "spoil"--not in that way, at least--so my apologies if I wasn't clear. What I do mean is that certain adjuncts, particularly coffee, tend to fade over time. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it allows the base beer to become more pronounced. But for some drinkers, the adjuncts are what make the beer so special in the first place. When it comes to KBS, I'm not sure there is a consensus on whether it's better fresh or aged. But I tend to fall in the "drink fresh" camp.

    Ten FIDY is a Russian Imperial Stout, which is a completely different animal. Most traditional RISs are brewed without adjuncts, so the flavor is based almost solely on the malts, hops, yeast, and resulting alcohol. Cellaring over time usually smooths out some of the rough edges of these beers while allowing some of the complexities to come forward a bit more. I believe that Ten FIDY ages well, and I think many people would agree. Whether consumed fresh or cellared, it's a fine beer.
     
  14. dannyhead

    dannyhead Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2011 Florida

    If you're new to craft beer and have a KBS in your hands, keep it! Although you don't really like coffee, you may be kicking yourself in a few months for getting rid of it. This year's KBS isn't as coffee forward, and if you hold on to it for a bit, any coffee flavor it has will start to fade. You may find yourself enjoying heavy stouts at some point!

    If you like Ten Fidy, try Founder's Imperial Stout and Bell's Expedition Stout. I recommend letting those beers sit for a few months and then cracking them open. They get better with time.

    As far as DIPA's, Stone Enjoy By is great and pretty easy to get. I also recommend Terrapin Hopzilla and Great Divide Hercules - they're both more on the malty side. Enjoy!
     
  15. Hophead21

    Hophead21 Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Ah good call, even better!
     
  16. sagesebas

    sagesebas Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2013 Oregon

    I don't know if you can find it but Sea Hag is really good by New England Brewing Company. I haven't had anything else by them but there other beer is really highly regarded. And Founders Breakfast Stout, my favorite stout hands down
     
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  17. Mikexw

    Mikexw Pooh-Bah (2,314) Mar 3, 2014 New York
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    Since you like IPA's but probably don't want to burn out, I'd try some variations -- maybe some black IPA's/Cascadians (somebody mentioned FW Wookey Jack, I would just look for a highly rated one you can find) or Rye beers like Founders Red's Rye or Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye. Also consider trying some APA's like Maine Mo or FW Pale 31. I would just try to taste a variety.
     
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  18. Chillwave

    Chillwave Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2014 Florida

    Funny thing was is that i wasn't even looking for KBS, but when i asked for a beer they didn't have they brought one out just for me. Also the only reason i haven't traded it yet was because i thought i would probably kicking myself, since i hear it can be pretty hard to get sometimes.

    Saw Stone Enjoy By once, went back the next day and it was gone.

    Did not like Dirt Wolf, though i think it was somewhat old. Everything else you listed are all in my area except for the Bourbon County (stuff sold old in a day)

    Oh i didn't mean go bad i meant taste better or worst with age. I might actually like the coffee flavor to fade. Thanks for the info between it and Ten FIDY though, always good to know.

    I would be fine with trading KBS for something like heady but i might also be getting can soon as well.
     
  19. elektrikjester

    elektrikjester Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2008 Georgia

    Since you're new to craft beer, you might get some benefit from perusing the section called "Beer Styles" under "Beer" at the top of the page. There also are some fine short essays in Beer 101. You'll note that there is a style called "American Double/Imperial Stout" under American ales and a style called "Russian Imperial Stout" under English ales.

    Generally, what separates these two styles is the use of adjuncts in American Double Stouts that are less common in Russian Imperial Stouts. Barrel aging and special versions muddy the waters quite a bit, to be sure. But that is a primary difference between the two.

    One other tip: The big double IPAs may be great drinking, but be sure to have a (regular) IPA or Pale Ale every now and then. Sometimes you need to hit the reset button when drinking extreme beer. Your palate may very well thank you.
     
  20. edwado

    edwado Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2013 New Jersey

    If you love these beers you have great taste immediately .Most beginners of craft beers do not off the bat because they have been drinking incredibly awful s..t all these years .You my friend do not need recommendations.You must love hoppy beer and have great taste in beer.I have had all of these beers and believe me I would venture to say those of us who are into the craft beer movement will agree you are a bonafide craft beer afficianodo.Fantastic choices you have made.You my friend are a hophead as am I and it took me a couple of years to appreciate most of the choices you made.On that note I will give you my recommendations to expand your horizans.

    Dirtwolf-Another great and for the price point incredible Double IPA
    Vitus-Weizenbock-the best beer in the world for price point and taste,abv.Fantastic stuff
    Dortmunder Gold-Fantastic lager
    Celabrator- dopplebock that all are compared to
    La Fin Du Monde-a triple that is always stocked and can compete with any Belgian Triple Incredible stuff

    None too expensive. All fantastic. All different
     
    #40 edwado, May 6, 2014
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