Completed prop 14 and vanilla rye trades

thats what my euro contact said.

 

I was gonna throw up a trade after the holidays. Prop, VR and 4pk Coffee for say something like JK Nocturne, Colour Five, Atrial, and/or upcoming releases. Point being $4$ BCBS variants for JK should do it yeah?

 

Yea really, ive been trying and trying and getting sick of it.

 

Sounds like I need to move. Bunch of BAs got 4/5/6+ bottles of Vanilla. Limited to 1/person here in AZ.

 

Limited to 0/person here in VA

 

Sucky @jaymo18 sorry to hear that. AZ didn't get a huge distro, in fact only one shop in the Phoenix Metro area even got all the variants.

 

Looks like Iowa missed out on Vanilla Rye, and it seems, some folks will trade to get what they want, now.

 

Seems like 1:1 Vanilla Rye for Assassin is a one off trade....I've got a post up offering Vanilla plus what I consider are some pretty nice pluses and no bites on Assassin yet. Did get a BA Abraxas with the post though.

 

only reason that sounds strange is that 3F is not really brewing anymore (or only JUST started)

 

and more info from @F2brewers below. if they are doing Framboos again it would be different from the old framboos

"3F has always been a small brewery/blenderie. On May 16th, 2009, Armand walked into his storage facility in Halle, Belgium (a town or two over from the 3F brewery) and discovered a thermostat failure had allowed ~ 50,000 L (~ 100,000 375 mL bottles of gueuze and kriek) to rise in temperature from the expected 16ºC to around 60ºC for some 36 hours or so. Some bottles burst and after tasting a number of others, Armand decided to scrap them all (as beer) for being unworthy of the the 3F label.

Fortunately, he had been taking a distilling class and was able to distill some of those bottles into an unsweetened eau de vie (40% alcohol) which you should be able to find at many of the online stores.

The loss represented ~ 1/3 of his annual income. As a result, he ended up selling off a huge number of his older vintages of gueuze (at least back to 2002) and selling off all of his brewing equipment. The brewing aspect of 3F was always small relative to the blending aspect (blending began under his father Gaston in 1953, but Armand only began brewing his own lambic in 1999) and he made then (and makes now) no secret of the fact that a large proportion of his wort was provided by Boon, Girardin and Lindemans. In fact, after the "disaster", it was only through the generosity (i.e., pay us when you sell your product(!)) of these other brewers that 3F was able to stay in business as a blender.

Since he thought he'd never brew again, Armand decided to take the last 50 barrels of his own (and only his own) lambic and make the Armand '4 set, one blend for each of the seasons, blended on separate days (~ 4250 750 mL bottles of each blend) in March and April of 2010. The first season, Lente, went on sale in May 2011 for the Toue de Gueuze, followed by Zomer in July, Herfst in September and Winter in December of 2011.

When I visited 3F in November 2012, they were still selling full sets (in the collector's box) as well as all individual seasons except Lente. The collector sets were limited (I believe) to 500 boxes, so if you've got a thing for the box, there you go. Individual seasons were sold in printed cardboard boxes as well and Armand signed many of those sold at 3F. Individual bottles were (I think) 34 Euro at the brewery with the set/box coming in at 125 Euro. YMMV on the prices.

The thought was that these would never be made again since Armand would never brew again. In November 2012, he completed installation of his new brewing system (hooray!) and when I was there in March of this past year, his business partner Michael told me that the first batches of lambic from that system were just becoming ripe enough for use...that some may be blended into the 2014 bottles of gueuze. He stated that even he only had "four or five full sets" remaining (not for sale) and that Armand had a number more. So, you may see them here or there at special events.

Also, if things go well, Michael hinted that it *might* be possible for 3F to produce new version/take on Armand's own lambics...perhaps the seasons again...or perhaps something different. "

 

Thanks for the info. I pm'd my partner hoping to get more info on the release as well. I was shocked when he told me about it.

 

I didn't talk to Armand or Michael in detail about Framboos, but Michael did tell me that it would likely appear again "soon" and that one of the reasons that 3F doesn't produce a regular raspberry lambic was because Armand doesn't like the head retention that raspberries give his beers.

If you drink 3F Oude Gueuze at all, you know it's famous for having a massive head and carbonation. This is less prevalent in the Oude Kriek and Schaerbeekse Kriek and to me, almost non-existant (in my bottles as well as the one I had at 3F) in Hommage.

I've never had Framboos, so I can't speak to that.

Michael did mention that Hommage would likely be the last of the 3F "special" (his term) beers to see US distribution.

 

Well there goes the price of Hommage lol.

You heard it here gents

Maybe soon means March 2015...excitement sets in.

 

Lets get back to the real deal...Fou units.

 

I did 1:1 2013 Prop for 2014 Prop. Couldn't have been easier.

 

Did Vanilla+3 BCBBW for Bramble+Lindley park

 

I did 1:1 Vanilla Rye for Pugachev Royale

 

How much would I need to add to a '12 Dissident to get a Vanilla?

 

this

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/i-think-i-got-duped-feedback-please.234718/

 

Traded away 2 bottles of Vanilla
Got back
2014 Abraxas
FW 18th Anniversary
8 2014 BCBCS