Bad Trader: BarofGold

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by JamesH, Dec 22, 2014.

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I had Fed Ex pop a box in Ca, and they shipped it back to me, just made a bit of a fuss told me it was illegal to ship. I ship FX exclusively so there's no flagging on an individual basis. The worst that would happen is they destroy the box which was intended, perhaps they ship it back to you too, you never know. But I'd be damned if there was even a slim chance to block a box of freebies going to a thief would I not try to intercept that box. I also had a box broken and destroyed in Minn, no letter nothing except following the tracking info, they never said a thing about it. So I don't believe they take shipping of beer very seriously at all.
     
  2. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I don't think that list is all of bad traders, if so, it would be a lot longer.
     
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  3. JamesH

    JamesH Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    The box arrived and was missing two beers that we agreed upon. Not surprising. Scumbag
     
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  4. Respirologist

    Respirologist Pundit (756) Feb 26, 2013 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Lucky you got a box at all...... But yeah......
     
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  5. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    WTF is wrong with people?!
     
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  6. RyanMcFly1985

    RyanMcFly1985 Savant (1,222) Oct 20, 2007 Ohio
    Trader

    You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
     
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  7. JamesH

    JamesH Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    Not kidding unfortunately
     
  8. NGennaroL777

    NGennaroL777 Zealot (500) Aug 15, 2013 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Guys like this give true beer traders both veterans and rookies bad names.
     
  9. JamesH

    JamesH Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    I'm over it. Like it sucks but there is nothing I can do. It wasn't a huge trade which is good and I was honestly looking forward to having a solid VT trader after he moved back but uh dodged a bullet there.
     
  10. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    So what was in the box?
     
  11. RyanMcFly1985

    RyanMcFly1985 Savant (1,222) Oct 20, 2007 Ohio
    Trader

    I am really sorry man. What a scumbag.
     
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  12. JamesH

    JamesH Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    The trade was for some RR sours. Nothing too crazy... It was for supp, tempt and consecration with a promised extra of pliny the elder. What was in the box was pliny, consecration and damnation with extras of an almanac sour (don't remember which one currently) and a blind pig. Would've been a great box if it just had the beers I was trading for. I gave him some CCB shelf/seasonal stuff with generous extras such as crowlers from Cycle.
     
  13. JamesH

    JamesH Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    The IPA's were at least decently fresh. Not like right off the bottling line but they were 12/18 and 12/12 respectively.
     
  14. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    ...didn't you say that this guy was currently living in Santa Rosa??? He can't even be bothered to go to the brewery to pick you up a bottle of Supplication, which is always available there? What an assclown
     
  15. JamesH

    JamesH Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2012 Florida

    Lol My thoughts exactly.
     
  16. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/user/trades/?ba=BarofGold

    @Todd Dec 22 2014 you noted in this thread that BarofGold had retired his acct. (You noted a bit later that he lied when he told the OP he was banned) Is re-activating a retired acct a simple matter?

    He has very recent fb & currently has 6 open trades. @BarofGold is limiting who can see his profile, but his fb is still accessible. Given how generously BA rate trades in general, how patient & forgiving they are of even egregious behavior & how reluctant most member are to leave even neutral fb, it's fair to say that BarofGold's fb reeks.

    Reading through this thread it's clear that his fb, as crappy as it is, doesn't tell the whole story. Others in this thread have also complained that he's cheated them, both here & elsewhere.

    @PatrickInAustinTx noted that BarofGold attempted to re-negotiate an agreed upon trade. Failing that he simply reneged on the trade.
    @cbgoods set up a trade with him whereupon BarofGold admitted he didn't have all of the agreed upon beers. When cbgoods declined to ship prior to BarofGold acquiring those missing beers, BarofGold flaked out on the trade.
    @sarro sent him a box in mid Dec with Kuhnhenn bottles. Sarro, did you ever receive the beers due you from BarofGold? I notice he never left you fb. Did you have a trade request accepted prior to shipping your beers to him?
    @Devman171 said on Dec 26 2014 that he was still owed a 4 pk of Heady from a trade made on another site over a year ago.
    @JamesH the OP of this thread, finally rec'd a box from BarofGold, which was short two of the agreed upon beers.

    The bad/neutral fb
    @jason3125 left negative fb explaining that he rec'd only half of the agreed upon beers.
    @Aespi left negative fb because he never rec'd his beers from BarofGold.
    @nophunk left neutral fb because his box was missing several of the agreed upon bottles though he rec's a 4pk of Heady a couple weeks later

    @OU_Bobcats left positive fb which mentioned BarofGold couldn't find Heady for him. OU_Bobcats, was the Heady part of the agreed upon trade?

    @Respirologist might have had a near miss with him.
    @DenverBeerDrinker noted delayed shipping problems with him but otherwise rec'd what they agreed on

    LOVE this statement from Bar of Gold from Nov 25 2014...
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bad-good-beer-traders-lists-not-updated.229934/
    "I think your solution to this question/issue looks good Todd, I think the good traders list should include 100% good completion along with a high rate of trades. I dont by any means think I should have been added to the bad traders list, and Im glad this did not happen. For all BA'ers it is up to us to converse with each other and dig deeper into all situations and make judgements based off of that. With nearly 100 trades completed and 1 bad posting I do feel I am still a good trader and do what I can to keep that reputation."

    BarofGold have you made it right with the people you've cheated, both here & elsewhere, prior to resuming trading? Going forward, what are you doing differently to ensure your obligations are completed in an honest & timely fashion? Of course, in this thread you demonstrated a history of LYING as well as STEALING & PREVARICATING. That makes it very difficult to trust what you have to say.

    @Ready4aHeady I'm curious. Given what a shambles his fb is in, why were you comfortable trading with BarofGold? Did you at least request that he ship 1st?

    @F2brewers given BarofGold's extensive history of sketchy dealings, do you think he's earned the blue-dream badge of distinction, ie post a link of this thread to his profile page. It's sad he's back but it's scary he's apparently got 6 trades open.
     
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  17. nsheehan

    nsheehan Savant (1,206) Jul 3, 2011 Texas
    Trader

    I posted this elsewhere just now, but am copying over because you said Badge.

    "Staff have little banners under their name. I'm pretty sure that's not hard to add. Given that these traders are already getting mod attention, could you add a Potential Bad Trader banner to their ID/avatar box?
    That way anyone anywhere on the site (including PMs) can see it."
     
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  18. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    This guy is still trading on BA? How can you tell, profile shows no trading info and is restricted.

    Also, maybe the system needs an enhancement, anyone who has accepted the trade terms of service can't hide their profile.
     
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  19. buttesnake

    buttesnake Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2013 Colorado

    Needs to be banned.
     
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  20. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    If you click on the hyperlink at the top of JavaNoire's post, you can see his trading history.

    Hard to believe anybody would still trade with this character. Really curious why @Ready4aHeady would trust a trader like this, I'd be interested in finding out if he made him ship first, or just wasn't aware of his checkered past.
     
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