Favorite Czech Pilsener?

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  1. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    C'mon Berkshire, I can't keep my fingers crossed indefinitely! It results in too many typos!

    I had it on cask at Deep Ellum. I'd drink that iteration everyday if I could.
     
  2. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Pilsner urquell

    Great Lakes the wright pils is also very good American representation of the style. Not overly hopped.
     
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  3. beerluvr

    beerluvr Pooh-Bah (1,900) Jan 2, 2001 Canada (ON)
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    Czechvar/Budvar...or whatever they're calling it these days. Fantastic stuff when fresh.
     
  4. Witherby

    Witherby Crusader (498) Jan 5, 2011 Massachusetts

    Armsby also has the following on tap right now: Koutska 12 ("Czech Pilsner"--Světlý Ležák, 5% ABV) and Mahrs Ungespundet (Franconian Kellerbier, 100% pilsner malt, but unfiltered, 5.2% ABV) and Victory Prima Pils ("German" Pilsner, 5.3% ABV). The Berkshire Czech Pilsner uses Czech floor malted Pilsner malt and is 5.5% ABV. I was thinking about getting some people together (Thursday evening??) to do a tasting of these four. Should make for an interesting comparison.
     
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  5. illpass78

    illpass78 Pooh-Bah (1,651) Aug 16, 2012 Maine
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    I like Moat Czech Pilsner, myself.
     
  6. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Yeah I love that Koutská 12 but I don't love its price. I think it was maybe $11 last time I had it at Armsby? A rough price for something that goes down so easy. Unfortunately the Mahr's U isn't far behind in price.
     
  7. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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  8. brureview

    brureview Pooh-Bah (2,803) Jan 20, 2012 Massachusetts
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    The Mama's Little Yella Pils was pleasant but I liked the Notch and the Jan much more. Far more flavor and malty.
    The Summerfest needed more malt backbone, and is a bit bitter for the lightness of the beer.
    I haven't tasted Pilsner Urquell, or the Berkshire- which I will look for.
     
  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    To perhaps get a bit technical, I think the water makes a big difference, too. The Pilsn water is reputed to be incredibly soft and almost pH neutral, so that necessitated the need to use a triple decoction (including the acid rest) in the development of the style. That darker, richer maltiness is the result of the decoction process, and not deeper roasted grains; plus, the slight lactic counterpoint to the rich malt has a softer quality than a beer with a more minerally water profile.
     
  10. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I see this all the time in single green bottles (500ml, I'm guessing?) on display, and pass it up because of the light exposure. If it were from a closed case I'd definitely grab a few.
     
  11. Sesmu

    Sesmu Pundit (768) Feb 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    Why would you say that? I haven't had it since last year, but I remember it being more Czech than German. Unless you were referring to something else. But yes, quite delicious.

    And as was noted, they're not coming in cans this year (again). Spoke to a brewery rep about it. It has to do with production constraints. But agree, it would be a great addition.

    @JackHorzempa, by any chance, have you tried Berkshire Czech Pilsner (they changed the label this year)? Would be curious to know your opinion.

    Also, have yet to try Brewmaster Jack Jan, but I'd think it's worth at least exploring.

    Wasn't really impressed by Pilsner Urquell in cans. Was fine, but didn't notice any discernible difference. And I had it in a sauna, where cold beer usually always tastes better :slight_smile:
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Berkshire does not distribute in PA. I have not had the pleasure of drinking that beer.

    Cheers!
     
  13. Sesmu

    Sesmu Pundit (768) Feb 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    I know they don't - too small. I just know you like the style, so thought...
     
  14. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Nice deep malt character on that one- I do wish the hops were stronger.

    My fave was always Starobrno, for the unmistakable Saaz hop aroma, but it also had a rich maltiness as well. Too bad I haven't seen it in quite some time.
     
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  15. Sesmu

    Sesmu Pundit (768) Feb 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    Btw, what about ST Eurotrash Pilz? I think I had it a long time ago, but don't remember any details.

    Peak Organic Fresh Cut is listed as Czech here... I thought it was closer to German due to its "thinner", if you will, malt profile, dryness and hoppiness. But I liked it.
     
  16. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Yeah I would agree. I just feel like it drinks both a bit sweeter and a touch hoppier than other czech pilsners I've had, but not substantially so. I'm just inclined to immediately think of xyz Berkshire beer as "not typical" because many of their beers run sweeter than other brewers' take on the same style.

    As for those cans....oh well. At least their bombers are relatively affordable.
     
  17. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Actually, Mahr's Ungespundet isn't 100% pilsner malt, rather a mix of approximately 70% pilsner and 30% Munich malts.
     
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  18. mabermud

    mabermud Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2006 Washington

    Pilsner Urquell
     
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  19. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Grand Pooh-Bah (5,873) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    Lagunitas PILS is my highest rated Czech Pilsener on BA.
     
  20. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    In addition to what has been said:
    Czech Pils usually has low sulfate water that results in a bitterness that fades quickly, while most German beers have sulfate in the water that gives a dry and lingering bitterness.
    There is a difference in the yeast characteristics. The Czech Brewers use lager yeast that are classified as Saazer yeasts, that will ferment even colder. The Germans use mainly Frohberg strains which are happy around 50F.
     
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