IPA's with higher IBU's seem to be the highest rated

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  1. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    More sugars in the boil lead to DECREASED hop utilization in the kettle...
     
  2. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    Odd, I don't see anything in the style guidelines that says an IPA should finish "smoothly". I do see that they're supposed to be moderately to very bitter. Sounds more like a personal preference on your part.
     
  3. kwakwhore

    kwakwhore Maven (1,413) Nov 1, 2004 North Carolina
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    Westbrook IPA is only 60 IBUs and that is a very good IPA.
     
  4. MisSigsFan

    MisSigsFan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 California

    The best examples of IPA, both IMO and most of BA's opinion, are ones that don't have a lingering bitterness. They have a sharp bite, but not a lingering bitterness.
     
  5. lester619

    lester619 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    In name only. It's one of those walks and quacks like a duck situations.
     
  6. CantankerousCaveBear

    CantankerousCaveBear Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2015 Canada (ON)

    Let's be honest, a disconcerting percentage of craft beer drinkers in North America don't care for nuance, they want a lot of aromatic hops and bitterness. You'll find that a lot of richer maltier beers with a lot of depth of flavor get decried as syrupy messes. Anything that isn't potent, is open to being called boring, or too sweet. Hell, restraint is acceptable if the beer itself is well made. I think there's a definite preference for IPA/IIPAs in the market right now, all the better if they're difficult to track down.
     
  7. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Grand Pooh-Bah (4,516) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    Mean Malanashi of Hoppin Frog has 168 Internation Bitterness Units. It is currently rated at 3.79.

    Rogue XS Imperial IPA hits 74 IBU's, yet rated at 4.14.

    Mikkeller 1000 IBU supposedly has 1000 theoretical IBU's (whatever that means), and scores a 3.88.

    Sculpin hits 70 IBU's, and scores a 4.39 rating.
     
  8. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    And that's well and good, but to knock an IPA for doing what it's supposed to do seems odd.
     
  9. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

  10. turbotype

    turbotype Savant (1,035) Nov 5, 2013 California

    I still can't believe people who don't brew beer still pay attention to that crap. They don't understand the balancing act between hops and malt, and the timing of said hops. For the average consumer, IBU is a marketing gimmick at best. Hook, line and sinker.
     
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  11. MisSigsFan

    MisSigsFan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 California

    I think it's more of an accomplishment to make an IPA that doesn't have a lingering bitterness.
     
  12. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Because people like bitter IPAs. I want an IPA with a long, bitter finish. The lupulin threshold shift is real.
     
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  13. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    It doesn't taste or feel like an IPA. It behaves like one.
     
  14. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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  15. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe, but I think it can be a good guide and while I have learned through my tastings and as I learn more about the brewing process that I can't pay too much attention to it anymore (I have had 40 IBU beers that I found to be very bitter and 80 ones that I did not) it is still a decent baseline for me most of the time and once an IBU is above 30 let's say, I generally know what to expect with the beer's characteristics (and going the other way when it is very low, I know what to expect there too).

    I equate it to the horsepower and torque figures with cars, most people just focus on the HP and that's fine in some cases but knowing the torque figure is equally if not more important and gives you the whole picture.
     
  16. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    It seems to me that bitterness is only one aspect of hops (eg see fruity and piney)
     
  17. ToddSoonerFan

    ToddSoonerFan Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Iowa

    ZD like TG PSEUDO SUE is an APA. I know. Just a technicality.
     
  18. ThisWangsChung

    ThisWangsChung Pooh-Bah (2,988) Oct 15, 2011 Maryland
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    Just for the record, the ST Unearthly sits at 153 IBU. UNEARTHLY! Nobody will ever mistake that beer for a total bitterness bomb.
     
  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Those numbers are pure hype for the most part. Around 100 IBUs is very high. Lab tests top out around 115 for some rare cases.
     
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  20. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Yes, we all know these are calculated, not actual. And there are a handful of mistakes (Heady listed @ 120 when it's actually 80) but on the whole, it does a good job of dispelling the myth the TS started.
     
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