Black IPA's with El Dorado hops

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  1. Topher78

    Topher78 Initiate (0) Jul 8, 2011 California

    Hey everyone, I'm looking at brewing another black IPA and I'm interested in using El Dorado hops in it. Does anyone know of any commercial examples of BIPA's that use El Dorado? Just loooking for a reference point. Thanks and Cheers!
     
    #1 Topher78, Jan 26, 2016
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I do not know many commercial black IPAs (i.e., I haven't tried many), commercial beers with El Dorado, and nothing the combines the two. I have used all El Dorado aroma and dry hopping in a homebrew, in conjunction with a neutral bittering hop. It was initially fruity (not sure what fruit, this was 2-3 years back or so), but the hops did not persist.
     
    #2 pweis909, Jan 27, 2016
  3. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'd be very surprised if there is a pro Black IPA made with El Dorado. Why do you want to make a Black IPA with El Dorado?
     
    #3 Brew_Betty, Jan 27, 2016
  4. Teton

    Teton Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2013 Colorado

    Not El Dorado, but Mikkeller makes a black IPA with mosiac that blew me away recently. Good black IPA reference if you can find it.
     
    #4 Teton, Jan 27, 2016
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  5. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Why? What's wrong with that?
     
    #5 CADETS3, Jan 27, 2016
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Because El Dorado isn't commonly used in pro beers with a broad distribution. Because every Black IPA I've tried was chock full of C hops and none of them had El Dorado.

    There is nothing wrong with wanting to make a Black IPA with El Dorado. I just want to know why. Perhaps the answer could produce a useful response.
     
    #6 Brew_Betty, Jan 27, 2016
  7. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    El dorado is bogus. I like chinook summit and simcoe in a black IPA. Embrace the pine
     
    #7 chavinparty, Jan 27, 2016
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  8. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Mosaic can do no wrong
     
    #8 chavinparty, Jan 27, 2016
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  9. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Well I'm not a professional, but I used it at the end stages of the boil on a weird black IPA / milk stout because I really like the aroma in regards to what I was going for.
     
    #9 CADETS3, Jan 27, 2016
  10. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Do you make any beers without lactose? Just curious.
     
    #10 Brew_Betty, Jan 27, 2016
  11. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I've made about 10 without lactose. The brew tasted awesome going into the fermenter and ended up more of a darker brown ale since I didn't use any chocolate. I used about 4 oz of roasted barley and 1.5 lbs of crystal 120.
     
    #11 CADETS3, Jan 27, 2016
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Back on track though.... stone released a brown ipa that used el dorado. It was the best thing I have tried from stone. I think it was the 16th anniversary beer.
     
    #12 SFACRKnight, Jan 27, 2016
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  13. Topher78

    Topher78 Initiate (0) Jul 8, 2011 California

    Thanks everyone. I like brewing BIPA's and have a fairly solid recipe that produces good results. That being said I've had a few IPA's with El Dorado recently; SN's Tropical IPA comes to mind, and loved them. Then I checked my freezer and found a pound of El Dorado that I bought in 2013...needs to get used soon. Thought I would use it in conjunction with Simcoe or Amarillo. Just wanted to see if I could locate something to loosely base my recipe on. Cheers! Oh and I've got a name picked out...."Black Gold"
     
    #13 Topher78, Jan 27, 2016
  14. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I was about to say the same thing. That beer was excellent
     
    #14 Lukass, Jan 27, 2016
  15. jkn09

    jkn09 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Texas

    Unrelated to the original question, but how about Simcoe and Mosaic? That's what I've got lying around and am contemplating a Black IPA.
     
    #15 jkn09, Jan 27, 2016
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  16. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    Just brewed a Mosaic Simcoe IPA and from my samples I can't imagine wanting a roasty character with those 2 hops. YMMV
     
    #16 CavemanBrau, Jan 27, 2016
  17. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    I think it could work. Addition timing would be critical to success. Not a lot of experience with either hop but I do a black IPA every winter with simcoe and chinook dry hops. I think you'd want something abrasive like chinook or summit for bittering
     
    #17 chavinparty, Jan 27, 2016
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