Second Homebrew. Good flavor, odd "coating" on teeth?

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  1. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    Was wondering if anyone could explain this. My first homebrew was a zombie dust clone. The brew was great. It had this mild yet non stop bubbling carbonation that I have never seen in a store bought brew. I would say it was one of the best beers I have ever had (not because I brewed it ..It was seriously good) When I shared it with friends they shared the same thoughts. I am on my second brew. It is a Pale Ale that was in primary for 2 weeks secondary 3 weeks. It now has been on the bottle for 8 days. I know it is slightly early to be judging the beer but I have cracked a couple open in the last two days. The flavor and are good and what was expected from the description of the recipe. There is a good aroma and taste. Nothing tastes "off".The only issue is it leaves this "coating" feeling on your teeth. I am 1 Sierra Nevada and 2 New Belgiums later and the "coating" is just now going away ( I Might have to swish a miller light to get this out of my teeth :slight_smile: I tried my First home brew when it was "green" and never noticed this same scenario. Could it be Diacetyl? My first home brew sat in the primary for 4-5 weeks before i bottled. This time I did the "secondary" just so I could make room for my third brew. Has anyone experienced this before? Do you guys think this will mellow out after setting in the bottles a couple more weeks?
     
  2. AngryDutchman

    AngryDutchman Zealot (693) Aug 8, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Not sure of the effect or its cause. I would say that a total of five weeks in the fermenter sounds pretty long to me for a pale ale. I'd probably be bottling it at 10-14 days, personally. I'd rather bottle sooner with less priming sugar than trying to rouse yeast that have gone to sleep.

    Might not be bad to have those real beer nutrients sticking to your teeth in any event
    Relax and don't worry...
     
  3. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Sounds creepy
     
  4. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Is it dry or sweet? Have you tested your water at all?
     
  5. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    Maybe that was TMI. The current brew was only in the primary 2 weeks secondary 3 weeks. Seems like a long enough time but it has only been in the bottle for 8 days. As far as the water goes I used 4- 5 gallons of distilled and 1-2 of "drinking water"
     
  6. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    The taste is mostly dry like a Pale ale or IPA should be. The taste is great.
     
  7. chavinparty

    chavinparty Zealot (653) Jan 4, 2015 New Hampshire

    Total mystery to me
     
  8. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    I read where Diacetyl has been described as "slickness" on the tongue and teeth. I guess that is what it is. Maybe it will mellow out after another week or two. I guess I will update in a couple weeks.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Diacetyl is reduced by continuing yeast activity. Warming the beer (or keeping it warm) for a while to get/keep the yeast in the bottles active might help somewhat, but I don't know if there's likely to be enough yeast to do the trick.

    Edit: do you taste any buttery or butterscotch flavor?
     
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  10. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    No idea about the coating on the teeth. Hundreds of batches of homebrews under my belt and I've never experienced that.

    I did want to ask about why you put an IPA in secondary? It not needed and not usually recommended. I'm not a secondary hater like a lot are, though you should have a reason to do it.
     
  11. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    so he could make room for his third batch.

    i hope you find this "issue" to fade away as time goes by. answer @VikeMan 's question and that will help a lot with determining whether its diacetyl or not.
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If it's diacetyl, and you can only feel something on your teeth, consider yourself lucky.
     
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  13. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    Thanks for all the replies. Cadet is correct I only did a secondary to make room for another batch since I have limited number of containers. My first brew was a homerun and it sat on the yeast cake for around 5 weeks before bottling. Ill update in a couple weeks.
     
  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I often perceive a "sticky" mouthfeel from some very hoppy beers, in a good way. But it's not lingering, so not sure what the OP is describing.
     
  15. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    First homebrew was amazing! Second homebrew has issues. Sounds familiar. Not sure what's coating yer teef.
     
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  16. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    The constant carbonation on your first batch could be caused by hop particles acting as nucleation sites for the CO2. You wouldn't find that in the typical filtered or fined commercial brew.
     
  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Over doing the minerals gives a "chalky" coating on my teeth and mouth.
     
  18. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    OKay, it has been a few days. There is a slight butterscotch flavor on the very back side of the brew. The "slick" feeling of the teeth is pretty much gone. I assume the temperature in my closet may have have been slightly low since it is was January in Indiana. On top of that I Transferred to secondary against my better judgement to make room for my Porter I brewed so maybe the yeast didn't clean up as much as it should. Maybe there is a little off flavor from a Diacetyl or maybe the recipe was not what I was expecting. I think maybe the beer was a little green. Either way I expect to be better in the next couple weeks.
     
  19. Dee_Lynn

    Dee_Lynn Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2016 Arkansas

    If it is anything like the "chalky teeth" some people get from eating a lot of raw spinach it could have been calcium (in the water). It hangs onto the teeth a long time. Maybe it finally precipitated and is no longer a problem.
     
  20. AllHaleTheAle

    AllHaleTheAle Initiate (175) Apr 19, 2015 Indiana

    Bought a 6 pack of Bells Hopslam today. Had the same feeling on my teeth. So i guess it is just particles in my beer. Yeast, Hops, and other stuff sticking to my teeth. Also I get my teeth cleaned every 3-4 months so maybe I am more sensitive to yeast and other particles that might be floating around. I am sure that I had a butterscotch taste that I assume was Diacetyl but it has definitely cleared out from bottle conditioning. Bells says Hopslam is unfiltered and unpasteurized. Makes sense. Now that my homebrew has sat for a couple weeks it is almost as clear as Boston Lager and the Butterscotch taste is gone and the "teeth" feeling is also gone. So I guess my home brew was good and I just panicked.
     
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