Newbie Beer Trading guide

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Dan_K, May 19, 2016.

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  1. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    Do you have a source that sells them in quantities of less than 25 each? Those are cool, and prices are good, except you have to spend a lot. I've used some pulp shippers and they do indeed work well.
     
  2. Yohann

    Yohann Zealot (744) Apr 29, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Mr. Box Online sells them in smaller quantities, but they're more expensive and are pre-printed with "This Package Contains ALCOHOL", so you'll need to be careful to cover that up when shipping.

    My suggestion would be to just find another trader or two in your area, to go in with on an order from Gorilla Shipper.
     
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  3. 4truth

    4truth Pundit (806) Jan 30, 2015 Illinois
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    Any idea which areas in NJ? Would be helpful for a project I have going out this week, if you know what I mean :wink:
     
  4. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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  5. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    Hi guys, I'm almost a foreigner, and I 'm visiting the States this summer. I really want to hold some trades, but I can't find some info about foreigner using Fedex/UPS. I have a citizenship, but don't have any Zip code or anything. Can I still use them to ship my beers? I'll be really appreciated if you guys can help me, thanks!

    Edit : Also, how much does it usually cost to ship a box with 2~3 bombers across the country? I'm planning to ship Trillium when I get to Boston and want to know the approximate maximum shipping cost.
     
  6. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Anyone can use any shipping company in person. You can provide any address when you're at the local shipper and shipping cost is calculated based on where the package is shipped from. It still applies that you should not disclose that you are shipping beer. Shipping 2-3 bombers coast to coast would be around $15-20. The more bottles you ship, the better the average, though. Typically, a 25lbs box (~8 bottles) from Philly to San Fran is $30. Trillium bottles are actually 750ml, not 22oz bomber.
     
  7. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    Ah forgot about that Trillium was the bigger ones, thanks for the info BTW. That's not that high :slight_smile:
     
  8. Dutchcraftbeergeek

    Dutchcraftbeergeek Pooh-Bah (2,096) Nov 21, 2015 Netherlands
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    I'm new here to this trade beer stuff.
    I've read the instructions , but i've got a question .
    I've heard from a friend that 3 Fonteinen, or Cantillon, you can trade for almost anything.
    Is that right?
     
  9. Yohann

    Yohann Zealot (744) Apr 29, 2014 Wisconsin
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    There are a few specific beers from 3F and Cantillon (e.g. Don Quijote) that you can trade for almost anything, and in general their beers are very highly regarded, though perhaps their value for trading has declined slightly from what it was in years past.
     
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  10. Dutchcraftbeergeek

    Dutchcraftbeergeek Pooh-Bah (2,096) Nov 21, 2015 Netherlands
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    Okay thanks, Yohann :slight_smile:
     
  11. Mmmkcr

    Mmmkcr Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I just sent out my first 2 beer trades today. Was wondering about 'tricks of the trade' in keeping packaging reasonable. I'm definitely conscious of the fact that I need to protect the very expensive beer I'm shipping, but not tacking on another 15+ dollars in materials over shipping would be a lesson worth learning. I usually have a box around or know where to get one, was in a rush today and had to buy some... I keep certain materials around from online shopping boxes.... Old newspapers, etc.

    Saw comments about using trash bags and certain tapes, but I'm not at a comfort level to ship growlers now. Sounds like a horrible idea for summer now too. I lucked out today sending mostly cans. But yeah, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
     
  12. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Another tip to provide newbies (I started to realize this after a few trades), is shipping costs are considerably more expensive when trading with a partner further away. Seems like common sense but easily overlooked in decision making. Perhaps some guidance on shipping costs to consider when deciding on whom to trade with and how much quantiy. Oh and cans are less weight that bottles...another consideration for cost cutting measures.
     
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  13. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    I use tape on bottle caps. I used garbage bags for everything. I've never shipped a growler before. If you want to save weight (and therefore money) I suggest shipping cans over bottles when applicable, and I use a lot of bubble wrap which is extremely light for the amount of protection it affords. Cardboard and newspaper are relatively heavy methods of packaging. Trust me, I'm pretty stingy when it comes to shipping costs, so I'm always looking to limit weight of packaging. I sent 32 lbs of beer in a 36 lb package one time- nothing broke.

    Why do I use garbage bags or 1 gallon ziplocks for all the beer? Well, if you box gets soaked, there's a chance that they will take your package and throw it in the garbage. I can't afford that.
     
  14. j44thor

    j44thor Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Sorry for the newbie question but I can't figure out how to initiate a trade. I've read all the guides and start the conversation in the trade forum but the only details I can find say "follow next steps" which as far as I can tell do not exist. At no point in the conversation is there an option to initiate a trade. I've had trades initiated to me so I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing.
    I also have no way of listing what I have for trade. I can list gots/wants (though they aren't updating properly) but no way to list what I have FT.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
     
  15. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    Click on the trading tab on the top of the website. When the page opens, about half way down on the right under your stats you can search for the member you want to trade with. It says "Find Member" in a search box. Do that. Then on the right of the bar that says Recent Trades: near the top of the page there is a box that says "Request Trade"

    Thats how you do it! Good luck.
     
  16. j44thor

    j44thor Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Thanks so much.
    I'd suggest adding that to the FAQ.
     
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  17. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    @j44thor you can also click on the BA's avatar that your in conversation with, then click on their trade stats. Once opened, click on trade request button towards top right. There's more than one way :wink:
     
  18. juliuscaesar2701

    juliuscaesar2701 Devotee (313) Jan 11, 2016 Massachusetts
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    I'd just like to throw out the bad experience that I had with a pulp shipper. Not sure how, but a box that was sent to me was packed very well, with lots of filler and beers around a 2 bottle pulp shippers. One of the bottles (a voodoo barrel collection stout) in the 2 bottle pulp shipper got absolutely destroyed, completely shattered and had leaked all over the box. I felt awful for the guy who sent it to me, because it was a really well packed box, and I have absolutely no idea how it broke short of the folks at fedex drop-kicking it, or throwing it off a cliff. It certainly was not his fault. I would just hate for the same thing to happen to other people.
     
  19. Flybysilva

    Flybysilva Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2016 England

    Im looking to start beer trading and this has helped a lot. Good clear guide. I live in England so have access to some great beers, ales etc. im looking to trade for american beers i cant get over here.
     
  20. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    For international shipping I highly recommend getting your hands on foam shippers if you are able to. From a protection and weight standpoint they are ideal. There is one cautionary thing to look out for. In many foam shippers, the bottles are able to slide up and down a bit inside the cavity. If you can stuff some newspaper or bubble wrap inside and eliminate this motion, that's a big improvement. And I still like to wrap the caps in electrical tape or rubber splicing tape as well.

    I'm glad you found the guide to be of some use, thanks for the feedback!
     
    #40 Dan_K, Aug 26, 2016
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