Averagely Perfect ESB - Poll #16 - Crystal Malt Split

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Mar 31, 2017.

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What should the split between English Crystal Malt (~55L) and English Dark Crystal (~80L) be?

Poll closed Apr 2, 2017.

  1. 1% 55L, 6% 80L

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. 2% 55L, 5% 80L

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%

  3. 3% 55L, 4% 80L

    4 vote(s)
    10.8%

  4. 4% 55L, 3% 80L

    8 vote(s)
    21.6%

  5. 5% 55L, 2% 80L

    23 vote(s)
    62.2%

  6. 6% 55L, 1% 80L

    1 vote(s)
    2.7%
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  1. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    No so much roasty, but dark fruits like raisins and prunes and dried cherries. I think a hint in the background would be good, but too much would be a weird ESB
     
    #21 wspscott, Apr 1, 2017
  2. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I know we're not trying to clone Fuller's, but for some reason I swear I remember hearing that they use Simpson's Dark Crystal, which is rated 70-80L. Possibility my memory is fading, but if I am correct I am throwing that out there because I don't think a significant amount of C80 is out of style.
     
    #22 scottakelly, Apr 1, 2017
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Slam dunk for 5% 55L, 2% 80L.
     
    #23 VikeMan, Apr 2, 2017
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  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    #24 wspscott, Apr 2, 2017
  5. redgorillabreath

    redgorillabreath Zealot (511) Mar 29, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Thanks for the follow up. I did an experimental IPA with a big slug of 80L, and I get where you're coming from on the dark fruit aspect. I had it in mind that for this style there would be some subtle "bitterness"/roastiness coming from the grains, complimented by the hops finish, but I don't see that happening much.

    I've had Fuller's London Pride, but not ESB. Not the same animal from what I can tell.

    Thanks again / Cheers
     
    #25 redgorillabreath, Apr 2, 2017
  6. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    That would be a very interesting activity!
    +1000 votes from me!
     
    #26 machalel, Apr 3, 2017
  7. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I'm not sure if you know this or not but dig around into Fuller's brewing practices, especially partigyle brewing. Amazing the difference in beers being collected off the different runnings of the same mash.
     
    #27 scottakelly, Apr 3, 2017
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  8. redgorillabreath

    redgorillabreath Zealot (511) Mar 29, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Thanks for the tip!!!
     
    #28 redgorillabreath, Apr 4, 2017
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