Investing In Cellar Collection

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Antg8989, Apr 18, 2017.

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  1. Antg8989

    Antg8989 Pooh-Bah (1,582) Jul 18, 2014 New Jersey
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    I'm at the birth stage of beginning a beer cellar collection to start aging beers for the long term. So far I've only got Garden State Rhapsody (2014), Brooklyn Black Stout (2014) and Alesmith Speedway Stout (2017). Looking for any suggestions to start adding to the collection (these could be widely available or rarities). Also if you'd suggest a prime cellaring time be it 1 year or 10+ years. I've heard Dogfish Head 120 Minute and Sierra Nevada's Bigfoot are prime suggestions. What would you add to the collection, what are your experiences and what are you currently cellaring? (If this thread is already out there, feel free to post a link; I searched briefly and could not find any.) Thanks Bros!
     
  2. 1Unicorn

    1Unicorn Devotee (300) Apr 29, 2016 Michigan

    Probably just about any Barrel Aged stout; i.e. Goose Island BCS, or Founders KBS. Also many Barley Wines. The higher the alcohol, the better for aging. Just keep the temp steady 50-60 degrees and out of the light. You can also do an Internet search on how Cellar/age beer.
     
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  3. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Old Rasputin and founders imperial stout 2 years
    Great divide hibernation 1 year
    Palo santo marron, I've had it fresh through 3 years and it's been outstanding every time.
    honestly I thought speedway was much better fresh to maybe a year year and a half. I had a 2 1/2 year old that had fallen off for sure.
     
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  4. wickedestman

    wickedestman Initiate (196) May 15, 2016 Finland

    Do read the book "Vintage Beer" by Patrick Dawson. I does include enough information, in an easy readable format, to start and manage your beer cellar. The book is also pretty short so it's a great way to start.
     
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  5. bostonvert

    bostonvert Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2017 Belgium

    Well the stuff I tend to store for more then 5 years is Geuze. The neat thing is that you can store them easily for more then 20 years and the flavor just keeps evolving. Might be hard depending where you live to get ahold of bottles but its definitely worth it in the long run, together with abbey beers.
     
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  6. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I used to just buy cases and put them in the cellar, marking the date. Sometimes I'd drink them fairly quickly, sometimes they'd stay around for over a decade. My point is that the cellar was intended to drink from. It was there for when you got a craving for a certain beer, and lo and behold, you've got one! It's also fun to go down and choose a beer, and that's great for parties as well. I'm not sure how relevant these are as I haven't really done it in years, but here you go:
    Hair of the Dog Adambier
    Sierra Nevada Bigfoot
    J.W. Lees Harvest Ale
    Samichlaus
    Rogue Old Crustacean
    Dogfish Head Immort Ale and World Wide Stout
    Samuel Adams Tripel Bock
    Thomas Hardy's
    North Coast Old Stock Ale and Old Rasputin
    Schloss Eggender Urbock 23˚
    Rochefort 8
    Liefman's Goudenband
    Chimay Premiere and Grand Reserve
    3 Monts
    Anchor Old Foghorn
    La Trappe Quadrupel
    EKU 28
    Victory Old Horizontal and St. Victorious
    Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout and Monster Ale
    Ichtegem's Grand Cru
    Alesmith Speedway Stout
    Gale's Prize Old Ale
    Harveys Old Ale
     
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  7. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    That's why I buy a case of Halia. My wife loves it, and it isn't around year-round. Buy a case and drink it slowly whenever we want. Have a few beers we do this with that we like well enough we'll drink it anytime. It is nice to have it when you want it.
     
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  8. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    This... It's an easy read with helpful hints and is very affordable on Amazon. Can't recommend it enough. Surprised I didn't remember it on my first post.
     
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  9. phildow

    phildow Crusader (407) Jan 6, 2013 Michigan

    I don't know if I'm in the minority, but I find that BA stouts aren't as enjoyable with age. I feel like the flavors that I enjoy getting out of the aging (see: bourbon) are lost with time, leaving more of the oak tannins than bourbon flavors.

    I think if you're going for long term cellaring, get a beer that has a thicker body as the beer should thin with age. Experiment with the beers that are too bitter or hoppy when fresh as well - those flavors will definitely transform with time.

    And yes, Vintage Beer. It will tell you everything you read on here, and then some.
     
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  10. Antg8989

    Antg8989 Pooh-Bah (1,582) Jul 18, 2014 New Jersey
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    Thanks! Always looking for a good read.
     
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  11. Antg8989

    Antg8989 Pooh-Bah (1,582) Jul 18, 2014 New Jersey
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    Great list! I'll be on the lookout for these
     
  12. Antg8989

    Antg8989 Pooh-Bah (1,582) Jul 18, 2014 New Jersey
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    Thanks for all the recommendations. I recently had 2 Brooklyn Black Stouts (one aged 1 year and the other aged 2 years). The 2 year old bottle tasted much better than the 1 year old bottle IMO. (A mixed berry/chocolate flavor profile really comes through compared to one year, where the chocolate seems to be losing it's punch, but hasn't quite reached the berry stage yet.) Interesting.
     
  13. cmukid87

    cmukid87 Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2017 Michigan
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    I buy multiples of everything. I drink one fresh and think about what 1+ years might do. If it is something that I think will evolve into something different or something better, I cellar it. If I don't think it will change much I drink or trade the other(s). Simple as that for me. Beyond 120 Minute and some barleywines, my cellar is strictly stouts and BA. Anything with adjuncts are drank within a year since I don't want the adjuncts to fade too much.
     
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  14. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    Oh man I just sold off a bunch of 80s/90s Thomas Hardys to a friend- at about $7 a bottle. When one cellar comes to an end, another starts :slight_smile:. ***


    ***Sold my cellar as I can't do the glutens anymore (except when I say "screw it I'll take the pain to do a cellar review"). Tried to trade them off for ciders/meads but that practice is verboten on this site apparently.
     
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  15. Shaarm

    Shaarm Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2014 Missouri

    I have too much in the cellar as we speak. I don't drink as often as there are awesome beers released. However, it only takes 1 or 2 infected beers that were awesome fresh to reconsider your cellaring habits. I have been consciously trying to reduce the cellar (by drinking, not buying as much, or trading) or convert it to lambics/gueuzes for long term aging. I will say, though, that grabbing a vintage BCBS or really great sour from a variety of years whenever you want is really nice.
     
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  16. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I am trying to drink down my cellar. Most beers taste better fresh in my experience. Imperial stouts tend to age well for a year and then seem to fall off for me. Barrel aged beers start to lose the barrel right away, and so do some fruits herbs veggies spices etc. American barleywines loose their hops and become muddled for me. My best aging beers are english barleywines, high gravity belgians, doppel/weizen bock. It seems malty beers work best for my tastes here, but I have yet to find a beer that has improved over the course of being aged.
     
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