Barrel Aged Beer in Cans?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by honkey, Nov 1, 2017.

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Would you rather buy barrel aged beers in cans or bottles?

  1. Cans

    43 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. Bottles

    85 vote(s)
    33.1%
  3. No Preference

    79 vote(s)
    30.7%
  4. Whichever one is best for the quality of the beer is what I want

    61 vote(s)
    23.7%
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  1. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I specifically mean the coppery taste of pennies. I suppose that's a subset of metallic.
     
  2. Samlover55

    Samlover55 Pooh-Bah (1,735) Oct 8, 2015 New York
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    I chose bottles mainly for the reason given by @drtth. To @honkey's point, as mentioned multiple times in the thread OB has canned BA Ten Fidy, and @Sixpoint is releasing a bourbon barrel aged porter in cans, as seen in this thread.
    Cheers!
     
  3. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I prefer cans 99% of the time, but with a big barrel aged beer that I'm going to sit on for a while I honestly don't care.
     
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  4. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I had BA Ten FIDY out of a can but I only bought one can and drank it the day I bought it.

    I prefer bottles for aging and I age almost all of my BA stouts. Assuming that I buy a 4 pack, I usually drink 1 or 2 fresh and then age the remainder.

    The big issue for me is the potential for BPA leaching into the beer if left sitting for 2-3 years (or more).


    I am good with cans. In fact, I prefer them for beers that I plan to consume quickly after purchase.

    Give me a can for IPAs 100% of the time (except for something like Squall or Doom) but I'd still rather my BA beers delivered in bottles please.
     
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  5. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Ummm. BPA only leeches into solution when it is heated up, like say, in a microwave. i.e. a box of heat.
    You would have to do this
    to accomplish that.
     
  6. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I think you are overthinking a bit. Both mean one does not care about the container just about the beer.
     
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  7. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    Yeah, heating and I think repeated reuse of BPA can cause leeching. Neither which will happen for beer (although I have heard of some soda companies flash heating their cans pre-filling to sterilize).

    It’s effect aren’t totally clear. We can use it in the US (with warnings from the FDA) but it’s banned in some European countries. The point of my post was that drinking exclusively bottled beer will not remove BPA from the package, because it is in the crown cap.
     
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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  9. djtothemoney

    djtothemoney Zealot (591) Nov 30, 2015 Ohio

    I voted bottle, but truthfully I wouldn't turn down the same beverage in a can.

    I think bottles are more aesthetically pleasing than cans, plus they keep me from stacking in my cellar :slight_smile:.

    That being said, I've had no negative experience with cans either.
     
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  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Again, the amount is minimal in comparison to the baby bottles the studies determining bpa leeching was done on, and its contact point, and contact time where packaged beer is concerned is minimal to the point of being negligible. That is also a silly thing to get afraid of because you are now referring to Andre the Giant levels of consumption of beer that has exclusively been improperly stored and also microwaved.
    Like this...
     
  11. DonicBoom

    DonicBoom Aspirant (283) Mar 26, 2015 Virginia

    No, smaller amounts of leaching occur without heat. (source)
     
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  12. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    LOL was that really needed:grin:
     
  13. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    With can liners being microns thick, and bottle cap crowns having minimal contact time. Our risk of exposure is significantly lower, and again. Andre the Giant looms heavily in the background for the kind of task you're setting yourself up for to make it happen.
     
  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    So you do agree that some degree of leeching can occur without heat.
     
  15. DonicBoom

    DonicBoom Aspirant (283) Mar 26, 2015 Virginia

    The thickness of can liners doesn't seem relevant if the beer is only in contact with the liner and not the metal. The surface area of the lining would be the same whether it's is microns or meters thick.

    I am not calling for alarm about the levels of BPA in beer. But arguments on either side of the issue should seek to have their facts straight. Heat is not necessary, lining thickness shouldn't matter, and we must weigh the cumulative effect if we're also exposed to BPA in other foods, beverages, and even receipt tape and household dust.

    Andre The Giant could certainly drink a few beers without getting intoxicated. But it would make a difference if he had other simultaneous exposures, i.e., drinking lots of spirits and wine in the same sitting as those beers.
     
  16. FonyBones

    FonyBones Devotee (380) Dec 19, 2015 New York

    I voted for bottles. I prefer the feel and look of bottles to cans. And for larger format or high alcohol beers, I often use a bottle stopper to limit CO2 loss (when I am drinking at home, I usually consume in ~8 oz portions).

    All that said, I wouldn't think twice about buying a barrel aged beer in a can if the quality and value was there. In fact, I hope to get some from from Sixpoint later this month.
     
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  17. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    Read my post from 9:15 yesterday. I think you’ve got my stance on BPA all wrong.
     
  18. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I agree that anything is possible, and that it probably does. But, is it something I'm concerned about? I only have so much bandwidth. i.e. Not in the least.
    @JohnnyChicago Yeah. But, those microwave viddys are pretty funny.
     
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  19. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    The point was you said it could "only" happen with heat. @DonicBoom provided a link showing other wise.

    I'm in total agreement with you that the effect of any small amount from a single can will be quite small especially without heat. But if one drinks multiple cans per week, drinks bottled water regularly and eats canned food frequently the total dosage per week can be higher.

    But the concern over BPA is not entirely irrational given that there is evidence that BPA may accumulate in the body faster than it can be excreted.

    http://xxlmag.com/news/2017/10/comedian-eric-andre-cardi-b-for-halloween/

    So to extend your idea about Andre the Giant levels of consumption even you and I may be able to hit that level of consumption in a few days, but could be taking a few years to get to that accumulated level of consumption.
     
  20. thuey

    thuey Pooh-Bah (1,705) Nov 13, 2015 California
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    No question: Bottle.

    I'll open a BA Bomber, pour my wife and I a glass. Cap it with a champagne stopper. Then we'll enjoy another glass tomorrow. (Or a few days after.) The beer is now on my terms.

    Cans are not the almighty savior.
     
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