First time home-bar keg owner looking for help

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by ikthayt, Nov 20, 2017.

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  1. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Looks like you have it well planned.
    Be sure to leave enough gas line to be able to pull the tank out far enough when you need to swap tanks.

    Cheers.
     
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  2. IceAce

    IceAce Pooh-Bah (2,274) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    What Bill said.

    In addition, you have three refrigeration units all competing for cool air under the bar. Give them as much space as you can to allow them all to breathe properly and they will all last a whole lot longer!
     
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  3. ikthayt

    ikthayt Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2017 Michigan

    Great point, thanks. I'll mention to the contractor. But I think both the fridge (True) and the ice maker (Scotsman) have front air grilles for the condensers. I think only the kegerator is in the back...so that should help a bit. They are all commercial equipment. But regardless, I'll have to make sure there is some room around each of the items for some airflow. Thanks
     
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  4. ikthayt

    ikthayt Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2017 Michigan

    So I purchased the primary/secondary regulator setup and have gotten everything hooked up and put in a tall 1/4 barrel to get it dialed in.

    After one night I'm getting a pretty good pour, with a little bit bigger head than I'd like, but am tweaking a bit more to lower the pressure. The fridge all the way up through the tower is constant temp (True kegerator comes with a hose to blow cold air up through tower), so the beer is nice and cold.

    The beer comes out with a big head, but once the head is gone, the beer doesn't seem very 'bubbly' like I typically see when I order a beer from a bar. Not that I'm looking for champagne beer - but need to figure that out as well. I'm continually reading those forum posts on foaming/balancing:
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/foaming.193492/
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/help-with-balancing-my-system.248243/
    So I'll get it dialed in here soon enough.

    A big thank you to each of you who provided input. I very truly appreciate it and am very excited with this new adventure of a home bar.

    I'll post some pics once construction in basement gets more near completion and I have the taps set up where they belong.
     
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  5. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Glad you are set up and pouring some beer. But . . . you do not want to lower the pressure to reduce foaming. That is everyone's natural inclination and it's wrong. Lowering the pressure will reduce foaming, but it's going to reduce your carb level from the desired amount . . . not the way the beer was meant to be drunk.

    Once you know the beer's temp and desired carb level you set the pressure and never touch it again (unless you change styles or temps). You want to adjust line-length to reduce foam. This is explained in detail in the other links. The easiest way to find the right line length is to start too long and whack a little bit off at a time.
     
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  6. ikthayt

    ikthayt Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2017 Michigan

    Thank you - yes, I actually had to turn the pressure UP (very counter-intuitive) to hit the right carb level...and needed some patience for it to carb the beer sufficiently. The first glass is foam (as expected), but the following glasses are amazing. I'm so excited. Got a great pour with a nice lightly carbonated beer and perfect head. Unfortunately, it's a keg of miller light (on purpose, cause I knew I would dump a lot), but even still, it tastes so much better knowing it's from my own tap!

    Again, thanks to all for the help - I'm very appreciative of the help.

    Merry Christmas to all and to all a :beer:brew:beer: night!
     
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  7. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    With a True you shouldn’t be getting first beer foam. You might want to check the tower cooler to make sure it is flowing air and that it is hooked up over the top of the tower right against the shank.
     
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  8. ikthayt

    ikthayt Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2017 Michigan

    Thanks - I moved things around and it's balanced out nicely. I'm now on 1/4 keg #3 of Miller lite - it pours perfect first glass and all.

    But now I have a 2nd tall 1/4 of Bell's Two-Hearted. Looked up carb levels, set the dial, and the entire keg (we finished it last night) had first-beer foam. Same single tower setup - so the miller lite pours perfect, but the Two Hearted has first glass foam, then starts pouring perfect for any subsequent glasses. Come back for another round and first-beer foam again. No bubbles in the lines, the line is same length as the miller light and I even had the miller lite hooked to that tap, so that line appears to be balanced.

    The foam is thick/creamy (we even will spoon it off to a side cup to let settle and drink it when settled vs. dumping).

    I'm kind of at a loss - for the pilsner it seems to work fine, but for the ale, not so much. At this point could it be me setting pressure wrong? I've read through the foaming posts here and elsewhere. The only thing I can think of is to make the line longer - but it seems long enough for the ML, so my intuition tells me to leave it be.

    Other than that - I'm super happy with the setup. I really appreciate all the help experts!
     
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