Good hop to pair w/hull melon?

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  1. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    im making a ne pale ale soon where I plan to feature hull melon. Small bittering addition and significant whirlpool/dry hop. Are there any other hops that would play a good supporting role? If so, what ratio of hull melon to supporting hop would you use?

    I have plenty of Ctz, mandarina, halluertau blanc, citra, cluster, le dorado, Cascade, chinook and mosaic.

    My gut says to mix with a bit of mandarina or halluertau blanc. I've never used any of these varieties though so I'm all ears.
     
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  2. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Citra and mosaic or citra and el dorado
     
  3. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    Yeah, pair it with Mandarina and Blanc. And call it a German IPA. Also, use all German grains and yeast. I don’t know for sure if this would be any good, but it is on my list of beers to brew.
     
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  4. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    I love citra and mosaic and use it often. I'm just worried it will overshadow the hull melon maybe.
     
  5. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    That's a solid idea! K97 yeast maybe. Pils and Munich malt
     
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  6. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    But seriously don't pair it with something as strong as Mosaic and Citra unless you plan on
    using a lot less of those. The Huell Melon will be completely lost. I would do an all German
    one if you have those other German hops. It will be a refreshing change. You might have to up the quantities a bit as those hops aren't all that punchy, Blanc seems to be the strongest of the bunch.
     
  7. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    don't pair it with mandarina unless you want to be disappointed. They're good hops but a combo of huell and MB just don't seem to work well in an IPA unless you pair them with a hop that is going to outshine them. I did a 2oz of each in the whirlpool, 1oz MB/0.5oz HM biotrans dry hop, and 1.75HM/2.75MB/0.5oz Amarillo 3 day DH in a 2.5g batch and it was just mehhhhhhhhhhh. I mean you can triple the amount in the same sized batch but it's not going to give you what El Dorado, Amarillo, Citra, Mosaic, Galaxy, etc are going to give you.

    Now if you want to make a light crisp, lightly dry hopped law mower beer....
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And unless you utilize Citra & Mosaic in tiny proportions to the Huell Melon they will indeed overshadow them.

    I suspect that Huell Melon is a less than ideal choice for a 'NEPA' but please report back how it worked out for you.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    I just did Huell Melon and Eldorado in my neipa on Saturday as an experiment. I will report back on how this turns out. I used 8oz of each in a 175 degree 30 min whirlpool and I will add 2oz of each tonight for high krausen dry hop
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Are you experienced in brewing with those two hops (e.g., previously brewed a beer that featured Huell Melon, previously brewed a beer that featured El Dorado)?

    Cheers!
     
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  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'd add that Nelson would be a nice addition or substitution.
     
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  12. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    I am very experienced with El Dorado (bout 12 beers), but have never used huell melon
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you brewed a beer that solely used El Dorado for flavor/aroma additions? If so, how would you describe the aroma/flavor profile of that beer(s)?

    Cheers!
     
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  14. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Making a good beer was my first point. The huell melon is gonna get lost I agree but it’s gonna make either a bad ipa or be completely lost. Why not try it in a blonde, pilsner, or saison?
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I was sorta going in that direction with my post of: "I suspect that Huell Melon is a less than ideal choice for a 'NEPA'..."

    Cheers!
     
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  16. makisupapolice14

    makisupapolice14 Pundit (799) Jun 5, 2005 New York

    There's a local brewery that does a hazy huell melon pale ale that's super nice, but not a beat you over the head typical ne pale ale. That's kinda what I'm hoping for. I have a 1/2 lb of huell melon and was planning to do 5-6 oz whirl and dry hop. Figured supplementing with another hop that wouldnt mask the melon could be worthwhile.

    Interestingly enough it seems in reading up on huell melon some sources state it's ideal for neipa or pale. Whether that's true is another story
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Please report back after brewing your 'NEPA' with Huell Melon and let us know whether this beer is "true".

    The beauty of homebrewing is that we can do whatever we want.

    I really do not have much to help you here as regards a 'good' complimentary hop. I have already posted my concerns for Citra and Mosaic hops. Maybe Mandarina Bavaria would 'work'? All of the commercially brewed beers that I had that featured this hop were 'mild' in comparison to Citra/Mosaic hopped beers.

    Perhaps at some later date @TooHopTooHandle will relate how his Huell Melon/El Dorado beer turned out?

    Cheers!
     
  18. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    I have done one pale ale with El Dorado. I find it very fruit/tropical and packs a heavy pineapple flavor/aroma. Combine it with Denali and it makes one nice combo.
     
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  19. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    I will for sure post back with my results. I will be kegging it mid next week.
     
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  20. bryantc3

    bryantc3 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2017 New Jersey
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    in this day and age where galaxy goes for insane money (if you can even find it by the pound in the last 4 months) and cryo hops are flying off shelves, hop sellers are going to say any hop that has the slightest hint of tropical/citrus aroma/flavor is good for NEIPA so they can sell them. Hell, chances are the big hop farm are even spending to get content pieces written on third party sites to push the plethora of hops sitting on the shelves as "good for NEIPA" so people buy the $10/lb HM hops to clear shelves.

    just like breweries throwing "DDH" on everything, it's a marketing ploy.
     
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