Trade Value Thread (July 2018)

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by blkhawk14, Jul 3, 2018.

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  1. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    @putonyourwalkingshoes You are normally a pretty straight shooter. Curious your opinion about the last 4-5 posts on BAA, FF, and FO.
     
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  2. Keithengelke

    Keithengelke Zealot (556) Jun 23, 2015 Connecticut
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    Depends on what year BAA the older years 15,16 are valued higher than 17 and 18
     
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  3. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    People search out the older BAA still? Feel like every post I have seen (except the rare one looking complete a vertical) is always looking for whichever one is fresh. Honestly, did not even know.
     
  4. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    Appreciate it. Actually it's my birthday today and that gave me an extra smile.
    I actually talked to someone during the RFI pickup because had it when he won his ticket into the last kbbs lottery. I'm thinking that 3x FO or FS offer was pretty fair on both sides. FF alone realistically should be a 1:1. They hinted a few months ago it might be made again but by pure scarcity it's right there. Have a good one friend.
     
  5. OverTrainOverGain

    OverTrainOverGain Zealot (578) May 11, 2017 Oregon
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    Think you will struggle mightily to close on gnvp2 without a big bottle. I have seen one FT recently and it was trying to package up to assassin. I doubt anyone holding onto them this long will flip them for quantity. I would think you would need at least something like a VR or that level bottle or lambic.
     
  6. narddawg314

    narddawg314 Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2015 Missouri

    I traded my TWCP Maman for Carpathian 1:1..probably could have gotten a plus seeing as how many ISO are posted for it, but damn that Carpathian is delicious.
     
  7. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I keep reading these posts, thinking carpathian is the brewery. It'd be a badass name for a brewery.
     
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  8. Grizleeg

    Grizleeg Aspirant (255) Mar 17, 2018 Illinois
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    Does value drop at all if you know someone isn't the original owner of a big bottle?
     
  9. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    The guidelines for this are the following:
    1. Under no circumstances should cash value, offers to exchange cash for beer, offers to exchange beer for cash, offers to exchange cash for prime grade A sirloin or really anything involving cash at all be mentioned. This will lock the thread immediately and you will be shamed. If you have to use a reference, I would recommend the gold standard of RVRU (relative vanilla rye units)
    2. Don't be vague. No one really knows if you're ISO or FT. No beer has a singular value, so asking "what can I get with X?" will result with a million answers. "What does it take to land Y?" Again please help give us an idea of what you have FT or where about you're at to give an idea of locals, etc.
    3. The purpose of this thread is to help users out and introduce some dialogue and conversation into the merits of a particular proposed trade. It is meant to help users new and old and be a bit more dynamic than the "completed trades" section.
    4. Have fun with this!
     
  10. Thirst_trappist

    Thirst_trappist Maven (1,420) Jan 18, 2016 Florida
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    I'm interested in this answer from others..... I feel like a good portion of big bottles are traded / sent off for profit vs drinking
     
  11. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    For some reason this only seems to matter with VR.
     
  12. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I'm not sure that's quite true - I think that's generally true for some of the more sought after BC variants.

    People may not state it as explicitely for OG Nilla and OG rare (or maybe they do, but there are just less posts, so it appears taht way), but I would certainly care about storage conditions if trading for those.

    I think the reason people focus on it more for VR is because VR is more of a value than it is a consumption good. People use it in trades at least as often as people trade for it to drink. So, I think there's a genuine concern that you're getting a bottle from 2014 that has traveled to 6-12 homes, and there's no way to have any idea how that's been stored across all those.
     
  13. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    Agreed. Since it seems to be one of the more sought after and easy accessible "whale" beers, so people use it as the metric. Funny part is any beer could travel from 6-12 homes, you just never know unless it was just released. Even then, the person could not cellar it properly, so any beer trade is a gamble. The other guy is gambling you cellar it properly as well. Nice for the person to tell you it isn't but personally I dont think it diminishes the value.
     
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  14. BlackBearJesus

    BlackBearJesus Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2018 Missouri

    BCBS Reserve 17 to Henna 2018 (any of the three)?

    Figure the BCBS needs to add but I'm trying to figure out the level.
     
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  15. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    Seems like at least another reserve for any of the BA henna I would think
     
  16. GGBS

    GGBS Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2018 California

    dG Kriekenblossom or Purple Kriek for BL Space Trace or Pure Log Cabin/Log Cabin w/ Coffee possible?
    Would add extra fresh hoppy cans as well. Seem like enough?
     
  17. CWC177

    CWC177 Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2018 New Jersey

    I know it's early given that bottle pickup is Saturday, but would Goshawk's Territory go 1:2 for Canuckley and Bring the Ruckley? Not sure what the value of these are or whether they were a ticketed release like Goshawk's Territory was..
     
  18. blkhawk14

    blkhawk14 Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Minnesota
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    Which side are you on? I would think Kriekenblossom could easily pull ST B2 1:1. Not sure about the pure stuff as I don't see as many ISOs.
     
  19. GGBS

    GGBS Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2018 California

    I'm ISO the dG...
     
  20. Aetherbulb

    Aetherbulb Zealot (527) Oct 10, 2014 Texas
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    Another reserve and a plus like northwoods or regal would get it done.
     
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