America's Newest Monastic Brewery Opens in Oregon

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  1. BeerAdvocate

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  2. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Does being a monk have anything to do with brewing beer?

    I get that the “original” breweries run by monks have tradition and make great beer.

    Today I feel these new breweries are just using the “monk” as a selling gimmick.

    If I am wrong in this please let me know why and what being a monk brings to the brew table.

    Enjoy
     
  3. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Good article about a good idea that hits all the right notes for me.
     
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  4. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    No more than tats and beards I suppose, but monks brewing in contemporary America is a cool idea.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Certain orders (e.g., the monks of the Trappist Abbeys) have a principle to be self sufficient. One way to do this is to sell products. Beer is an example of a product, cheese is an example of a product, and so on.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Every one of those “original” breweries once had no tradition or reputation for making quality beer. Being a monk brings to the table what it always has, an opportunity for the monks to support their Abbey, their community and their life style through their labor.
     
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  7. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Crusader (481) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    Well they tend to make some damn good beer, so there must be something to it.
     
  8. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Absolutely nothing.

    Exactly.
     
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  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, with just a 5bbl system, they aren't marketing to many folks. They need cash flow to run the monastery, and support their seminary. I doubt they'll be having Hazebros lining up for 4-packs at 7am on a Saturday.
     
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  10. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    Something that hasn’t been mentioned is access to recipes and techniques.
    Trappists are cloistered and tend to protect their trade secrets. Even brewing books written about these beers tend to contain a lot of shrugs and dead ends. Training as an apprentice under someone who know firsthand how to make these beers is a rare luxury.

    There seems to be an idea that you can’t embrace capitalism and your abbey’s ethos. I say, why not both?!
    Are they aware that people associate monks with good beer? Absolutely! Does that make the beer worse or their goals more illegitimate? I’d say no.
     
  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  12. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    Is Mount Angel a Trappist brewery? I haven’t read the article yet.

    The Trappist labeled breweries are required to meet several requirements. As I recall quality is one of the requirements. Self regulation of quality just might be one factor “why being a monk” may make a difference.
     
  13. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    No.
     
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  14. rodbeermunch

    rodbeermunch Grand Pooh-Bah (3,900) Sep 30, 2015 Nevada
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    Those are all marketing aspects (small batches especially).

    Not everything is mutually exclusive.
     
  15. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Im pretty sure the Monks would be disappointed to know Jesus feels this way about their efforts.
    I believe that when Spencer got their brewery off the ground, they had a brewer from one of the European Trappist breweries train the monks at Spencer. And I know that the Trappist breweries in Europe were involved in every step along the way with Spencer.

    Not sure how much oversight is there with the Benedictine monastery, but with the Trappists there was significant oversight.
     
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  16. Keene

    Keene Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2009 Washington

    I figured you'd be the one to remember St. Vincent's, @jesskidden, and was wondering when you were going to bring it up! :wink: Incidentally, Father Martin did mention it in our interview.
     
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  17. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    I saw a special years ago on monastic brewing on some travel show.

    One of the monks they interviewed said something along the lines of “A brewer at a large brewery has a professional responsibility to brew good beer, a brewer at a farmhouse brewery has a personal one. But a monk has a spiritual responsibility.” It’s part of their life’s mission to produce excellent beer.

    Basically, if a monastic brewer knowingly cuts a corner, rushes product, or releases something below their quality standard, they’ve sinned against their vows.

    You don’t have to believe what they do to appreciate the seriousness in which they take their work. Whether beer and cheese made by Trappist monks or Mala beads made by Tibetan nuns, when people put their souls into their work, it ups the ante! :grin:

    Also...
    These guys aren’t brewing in catacombs. These breweries are state of the fucking art. Their labs are exceptional, their cellars are pristine, and their tolerances are minuscule. Comparing to the average US brewery is like comparing a brain surgery OR to a garage.
     
  18. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Crusader (481) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    I absolutely love this perspective.
     
  19. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    It is, however, important to know that not all brewers at monastic breweries, including those of the Trappist designation, are monks.
     
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  20. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I doubt that anybody would join a Monastery and live like a Benedictine Monk just to sell beer!
     
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