Trade Value Thread (TVT) Quarter 4 2018

Damon FBV + Florence Puncheon get close to 2016 + 2018 assassin?

Does Damon + 1 of (Fou 17, FO b3) get close?

Same questions for any year KBBS or SR-71.

 

Thanks. Even with this years SR and impending (probably) KBBS?

 

If you were literally trading VRs for SR71, It'd take 5 or 6.

If you're trading other beers, the degree to which VR units apply depends greatly on the beer.

Approximately the same for KBBS, although the degree to which this year's KBBS will affect KBBS value is unknown. It's not this year's MD aged, but a past year. So, who knows how that will play into this. But, in general you should expect KBBS to be "around" the same value as SR71. By that I literally just mean that if you aren't in the range for SR71, you're not in the range for KBBS (or vice versa).

 

I haven't seen much close on Damon, but most of the offers (on both sides until about 24 hours ago with a couple large asks by those with Damon FT) have been around 1.25-1.5 VRs, which is "around" That of Assassin (2016 and 2018, although 2018 a little less than 16).

 

Thanks, that’s kind of what I was expecting to hear.

Looks like 2 of my bottles also comes up a little short on Maman?

 

Think that depends on the year of the Maman. I've seen Damon FBV close 1:1 with 2018 Maman once for sure on FB, possibly a second time too but can't remember for sure. Also very early on Maman 2018 so not stating that these are the values. Just that it is definitely possible.

 

If memory serves, 2017 Maman shortly after release was not terribly far above VR/Prop14 Value. Buuuuut, as time went on that changed, and the value of 2017 has been quite higher in the past few months.

I'd expect Maman 2018 to drop the value of Maman again (specifically 2018, of course). If they made as much as the most recent BAA release, I'd expect value to certainly drop.

If someone is on the hunt for Maman, I'd certainly wait until the release to see where value settles unless you already feel you are getting a fair shake. Not an advocate for "winning," but I am an advocate for fairness, and this is one of those cases where pre-trading is likely to lead to overpaying based on history.

 

Looking for some feedback on the trade value of the following beers. I am looking to move these to clear up some room in the cellar. These are all b1 bottles.

Fuzzy, blue berry Flanders, blanc de blancs, Unblended #40, unblended #25, la fosse, thicket, smooth, balaton, punchdown, raspe,
Pitter patter or blended

What u think I could ask for with this? Srb1 or kbbs b3? Monster tones? Twcp maman? Am I way off? Not sure on the value of b1’s

 

I am looking for the deGarde and Side Project Collaborations:
The Floue Floue
Baies & Arbres
Saison Desay: Pinot Noir Barrel Aged
Saison Desay: Chardonnay Barrel Aged

Is a Pulling Nails #8 a start? I've heard the bottom 2 might be ghosts at this point?

 

A great start with what ratio?

 

Have dangled the '18 Coconaughty set and Mexican Coffee Cake (non Reserva) for a BAA and gotten crickets thus far.

How far off am I (either in terms of RVRU or comparable bottles)?

 

I assume the infections last year hurt this years' release(s).

 

They definitely were, but I think the fact that it happened multiple times in the same year to multiple beer releases. Not being isolated to a single release hurts I think. Same with JOs. They have been a bit plagued by it. Brad has not been on the board in the JO thread for some time too, which does not help.

Regarding the differences between WW and Perennial, two things:

1) Maman not "really" being around for 2 years until the 2017 release makes a long lauded and daughter after beer (more so than the medianoche's) even more valuable.
2) It's a beer from a Brewery with a long track record.
3) Anything stout-wise that Cory ever touched I suspect will always recoup value. With appropriate declines based on subsequent releases, larger bottle counts, etc.

Just my take, of course.