Reckless Brewing Company: "Black Lagers Matters"

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  1. CB_Michigan

    CB_Michigan Pooh-Bah (1,552) Sep 4, 2014 Illinois
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    So, this was posted yesterday:
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    Again, it's not the overt racism that produces an exclusionary culture. It's all of this thoughtless insensitivity. This post is basically saying "Unarmed black men being shot by police = people not buying my beer." And it's topped off by the completely inappropriate bastardization of Dr. King's speech, to boot. Not to mention the use of racism and discrimination as a punchline. It's the ignorance trifecta!

    This sh*t makes me want to puke. And I'm not going to bother linking to this guy's "apology" because while it's marginally more direct than what's been said by Founders, "I'm socially awkward" is a p*ss poor excuse for this kind of crap.
     
  2. VoodooBear

    VoodooBear Maven (1,362) Aug 25, 2012 Puerto Rico
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    It's funny (or infuriating, I guess) to me that every time someone calls out the craft beer industry for this precise type of shit, people come out in droves like "OH THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL BECAUSE SUCH AND SUCH ARE TOTALLY GOOD GUYS AND NOT RACIST AT ALL"

    ...And then something like this dumpster fire of a Facebook post shows up.

    Insane how this type of shit flies under the radar.
     
  3. AccipiterofBeer

    AccipiterofBeer Pooh-Bah (1,773) Nov 28, 2016 New York
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    yikes. There's out of touch and then there's this.
     
  4. FFFjunkie

    FFFjunkie Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2014 Illinois

    I’ll pile on here.

    This is a perfect example of a brewery trying to be hip and edgy and posting something without giving it a second thought.

    It is truly piss poor form and completely beyond any sense of dignity or respect. It’s not even remotely funny or excusable.

    I’ve never heard of this brewery before but they deserve every oz of blowback they get from that post.
     
  5. BayAreaJoe

    BayAreaJoe Pooh-Bah (1,724) Nov 23, 2017 California
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    They know they screwed up big - from a Facebook post today:



     
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Maybe he can get a job with Melvin.
     
  7. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Geez. I don't even know what to say about a brewery that also has a beer named Crazy Stupid Bitch.
    The white male privilege is nauseatingly strong, and I hope they get financially dutch ovened with their own stank so that the owners LEARN there's shit you don't do because it is obviously stupid and arrogant to do it.
     
  8. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Looks like he also has one named Poor Social Skills....wtf is up with this guy??
     
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  9. Newport_beerguy

    Newport_beerguy Pooh-Bah (1,860) Feb 24, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Yeah I make slightly stupid off color jokes and sarcastic statements time to time, but nothing to this extent. And I do it around my buddies who know my nature...anything online has to be assumed to be taken literally except when familiar with various posters like these forums.

    But at least the brewery name checks out. Maybe undersells it a little, should get a stronger name than Reckless...Negligent Brewery?
     
  10. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2017 California

    Well, I like the idea (always thought dark lagers were underrated), but think they're trying a little too hard to live up to their name.

    Does anyone know if "Once You Go Black..." is still around?
     
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  11. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    What was the whole point to the post? Maybe I’m a bit, dim but I don’t see it as edgy, informative, or the least bit entertaining. It’s hard to call someone names without knowing him, so I’ll just say it’s a stupid senseless post. Perhaps it was used to cause a negative reaction, a misguided attempt to try and be relevant.
     
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  12. nw2571

    nw2571 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2017 Indiana

    So you're so offended by this that you reposted it for more to see? Sounds legit.

    Look I'm certainly not defending this guy's ignorant, lame excuse at a joke. But I'm also sick of the "look how woke I am" outrage about everything in life.
     
  13. puck1225

    puck1225 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,585) Dec 22, 2013 Texas
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    Oh the pain! - Dr. Smith, Lost in Space
     
  14. VoodooBear

    VoodooBear Maven (1,362) Aug 25, 2012 Puerto Rico
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    I think the "apology" is even worse. "I'm socially awkward". Dude... Own up to it. I don't know why it's so hard to say: "I wrote that from a place of ignorance, it was obviously racist on my part and I apologize. I've learned from it, I'll work towards not being a racist asshole anymore and it won't happen again."

    These "apologies" where people expect others to take pity on them because they feel "hurt" that others think of them are racist are laughable.
     
  15. VoodooBear

    VoodooBear Maven (1,362) Aug 25, 2012 Puerto Rico
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    Discussing the problem of racism as it pertains to the craft beer industry on a craft beer forum, is not a "look how woke I am" outrage cry.

    If you're so "sick" of it, why are you commenting?
     
  16. nw2571

    nw2571 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2017 Indiana

    I wanted my own two minutes of hate

    Look the guy was obviously trying to make a joke. It wasn't funny, and extremely tone deaf. If you think that necessarily makes him racist, given that I can assume you've never met him, then maybe you should consider that you've cheapened the term racism to the point that it's barely recognizable these days.
     
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  17. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I really don't know what he's talking about.

    The four highest rated beers on this site are dark beers.
     
  18. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    The real problem here, as I see it, is in his attempt to apologize.

    "Some people who don’t know me may think that my post indicates otherwise, and I wish there were something I could do for you all to know me as a person so that you would realize that it’s true."-- I get the impression from this that he sees himself as the victim here because he thinks there are some readers that do not understand him.

    If he really wishes there was something he could do, here are a few possibilities:
    1) Run his post by others that can be genuinely honest with him before posting anything.

    2) Make a more sincere apology.

    3) Make a sincere effort to try to see it from the angle of those that were offended.

    4) Ask someone who was offended by what he wrote what he could do differently, now, going forward, to demonstrate that he "... have always treated and thought about all people with equal amounts of compassion and respect regardless of race. "

    I hope he realizes how he is playing the victim in this situation, and that he in turn can make a genuine effort to make amends.
     
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  19. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    Where do you see evidence of the above bolded part of your sentence? Do you evidence of it on Beeradvocate?
     
  20. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    They are the ones claiming to be 'woke'. 'the most woke brewery in town'.

    But back to the original post, common sense is not as common as one would hope these days.
     
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