Posting reviews without text to back it up

Talk Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by hottenot, Mar 29, 2019.

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  1. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    Not sure if this is pointed at me, but I never said I was against reviews, lol. That's silly. Why would I be against them just because I don't take the time to write them? I just think people who write full reviews *and* shit on quick scores take themselves way too seriously. That's all.
     
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  2. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I am asking about these number ratings, sorry if that wasn't clear. I am asking how am I supposed to use these number ratings without a review? Or are we not supposed to use them for anything?
     
  3. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    The numbers tell a bit more than the average, it's the look, aroma, taste, mouthfeel and overall. I'm trying to differentiate between them, makes you think and reflect. It can be a step towards a full-blown review, and what could be better? I'm planning to fill in reviews as time and beer goes by. So what you see today is not totally what I am. I'm in the "not yet" category.
     
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  4. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    Just ignore them, ffs!!!
     
  5. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Because, without input on a human level (words), what gives us non-mathies a thing we can relate to? How is one supposed to use social media, if not to socialize?
     
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Huh. Someone posts online, likely looking for a response (in certain circumstances), gets a response that's not to their liking, and everyone should ignore it?

    Fuck that.

    We open our mouths, we're gonna get replies. All of us.
     
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  7. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    People use this site in different ways. Just accept it.
     
  8. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    I was talking about the quick scores. If you can't glean anything from them, if they bother you, if you find them less than helpful--just ignore them!!! :rolling_eyes:
     
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  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Funny thing is, I, personally, do not give even the tiniest shit about scores, rankings, wutevz. But, a lot of folks do use the scores here as a guide to their purchasing decisions.

    It's so awesome how dismissive you are of our compadres on this site. Cool, you do you, but do not think you're above those who put weight into the scores you give.

    I suspect that there are at least 2 shallower sites that may fit your needs better.
     
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  10. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    :rolling_eyes:
     
  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I have quoted your response. I have written out my response, which completely refutes everything you said, but instead I am leaving it as a number rating, which is just as valid.

    My response, 4/7/19-

    Effectiveness 5.0
    Logic 5.0
    Facts 5.0
    Topicality 5.0
    Overall 5.0
     
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  12. GratefulBeerGuy

    GratefulBeerGuy Pooh-Bah (2,918) May 20, 2006 New Hampshire
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    I Don't think it should be mandatory to review, but some short tasting notes can sort of weed out the possibility of fake, drunken or otherwise crazy low or high scores from trolls.
     
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  13. superspak

    superspak Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,927) May 5, 2010 North Carolina
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    There is no reason why people should skip reviewing. I spend 150 characters just describing appearance. And when out bar hopping and not officially reviewing, I still can spend 2 minutes writing out a half-assed review on untappd so I remember what it tasted like. You guys are just lazy.
     
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  14. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    It's something we have to live with, whether you're for it or against it. Shrugs
     
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  15. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    You seem unwilling to take a stand on whether these number ratings you suggest I ignore have a purpose. Since they either do or don't have a purpose for others, and that purpose, if there is one, is not affected by whether or not I look at them, I ask again. Do these number ratings without a review have a use for other people, and if so what use to other people do they have?
     
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  16. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    Ask them. I already told you what I use them for.
     
  17. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    I definitely prefer and put much more weight into a well thought our review but you have to realize there are writers and people who don't like to write...neither is better. I love the written reviews and usually do my best to write review. Even in worst case scenario I will not add a review/rating without a few comments at least...(Not that hard to toss in a sentence or two). I think that is not too much to ask. I do understand how some who lack writing skill (me included) or excitement to write would only be willing to add a sentence or two.
     
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  18. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    It's shades of grey man, shades of grey.
     
  19. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    Individual non-review ratings are part of build of the average rating, I think people have said on this thread they use the average rating at times when making purchase decisions.

    They are also the input to generate the top 100/250 list on the site. People use those lists.

    People use them, those would be the main 2 reasons I can think of.
     
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  20. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    IOW, because they have no choice :stuck_out_tongue:

    (well, almost no choice; that is the reason I largely ignore the aggregate ratings and the Hyped 250 list.

    I would like it very much of the site computed a second aggregate rating that was reviews only. If for no other reason than academic... is there an actual difference?

    Either way, though, as I stated previously, I rely more on individual reviews from members who's judgment I respect than the overall rating.
     
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