German roggenbier and Southern England brown ale

Live Oak in Texas does a seasonal roggenbier.

 

What's the difference between a Southern brown & a dark mild?

 

The Bier Brewery in Indianapolis makes a really nice Roggenbier, but I can't speak to how truly authentic it is.

 

Abita Turbodog is a Southern English Brown Ale

 

Yeah, but it's Abita...

 

Haha. I like Turbodog but yeah, it's Abita.

Why does BA list Hobgoblin as an ESB?

 

because most beer entries on this site are created by users. the "style" assigned to it is up to the whim of that user. subsequent requests to "report an update" can be made, but ultimately, this site and the BJCP are NOT the be-all and end-all of what constitutes actual beer styles in the world.

 

Live Oak's roggenbier for the win.

Abita makes a roggenweizen (roggenbier with hefeweizen yeast) that really isn't too bad.

 

<--- Thinks Abita Turbodog is freaking awesome

 

I know that we could go round and round and round for days on 'styles' and 'stylistic correctness', but if one does attempt to follow the styles, Turbodog isn't really close to a Southern English Brown (which is not to say it's not a tasty beer!).

 

Bear Republic made a roggenbier at one point. Might have just been a one-off though.

 

Fine. East End Fat Gary (tap-only in PA) is definitely a Southern English Brown Ale.

 

To answer the OP, no American brewer could brew an authentic English Southern Brown Ale because it's not an authentic style in itself.It's a result one of the many misunderstandings and misconceptions which are rife in the beer world.
At one time when every town had its own brewery or breweries , each offered a Brown Ale.There was no regional characteristic , where I live we had three fair sized breweries whose Brown Ales were quite distinctive and different; it was good business sense to offer a choice from the competition.
There were and still are however two major brewers of Brown Ale , Newcastle in the North and Mann's from the South.But these are simply not typical Brown Ales at all.
http://zythophile.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/why-theres-no-such-beer-as-english-brown-ale/
Some people think that brown Ale was simply bottled mild but it was usual to brew mild and Brown Ale as separate beers.
So Southern English Brown Ale is simply a made up style and finding a genuine one is as easy as finding a unicorn.

 

I love your posts. You are always contributing something new and interesting to straighten out the facts.

 

This was the only beer I've had that would fit the BJCP guidelines for Southern English Brown:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/164/18969

Apparently, no longer brewed, but I recall enjoying it. As far as roggenbier, never had a commercial one, but going by the guidelines, I used to brew one everyfall. This year, I just went with a straight up dunkelweizen, and I gotta say, its a more soothing and drinkable beer.

 

I've a recipe for Whitbread Forest Brown which is similar to what is usually called a Southern English Brown Ale. I doubt very much any US brewery would brew it - too weak and too sugary.

 

Live Oak makes a roggenbier annually. I missed out last year but had it in 2011 and just loved it.

Apparently Real Ale up in Blanco also made a roggenbier... once. Here's hoping they bring it back.

Heard about the Bear Republic version but never got my hands on that either.