PseudoSue. The question is not if, but when...

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  1. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    It is now in third place of APA's behind the top dog, ZD. Rather amazing considering just how limited it is. It had a few small bottling runs that made it to certain parts of IA, MN, and WI. To have moved already to third by just having kegs and growler fills in IA, and the outskirts of MN and WI lead me to believe that once this is bottled and readily available for trade it will take over the #1 APA spot that is held by ZD.

    So, how long will it be? If TG gets bottles rolling in 2014, I think it could make a run by the end of 2015. It sure will be fun to watch.
     
    #1 Ri0, Aug 14, 2013
  2. EdwardFortyHands

    EdwardFortyHands Initiate (0) May 3, 2012 Iowa

    Never, it is not a better beer than ZD.

    Even if TG becomes FFF size they will equalize but PS will not be able to exceed ZD's amount of ratings.
     
    #2 EdwardFortyHands, Aug 15, 2013
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  3. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Pooh-Bah (1,838) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota
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    Agreed. I love Pseudosue, but Zombie Dust is a masterpiece.
     
    #3 sacrelicio, Aug 15, 2013
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  4. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    ZD is a bit more fuller and brighter than pseudoSue. But I venture to call it an IPA rather than APA anyway.

    Three Floyds' will always have more hype among craft beer drinkers. Always.
     
    #4 Stevedore, Aug 15, 2013
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  5. shawnp

    shawnp Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Minnesota

    Toppling Goliath will always have better quality for craft beer drinkers. Always. See Assassin v. Dark Lord..........
     
    #5 shawnp, Aug 15, 2013
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  6. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    This is BeerAdvocate my friend. And we are talking about hype here. These two things go together hand in hand. :sunglasses:

    (For the record, I agree that Assassin >>> Dark Lord even though its not a fair comparison and that TG >>> FFF. I am the furthest thing from a FFF fanboy)
     
    #6 Stevedore, Aug 15, 2013
  7. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    I think a more fair comparison would be MD >>>>>>>>>>> Dark Lord.. since Assassin is barrel-aged.
     
    #7 Stevedore, Aug 15, 2013
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  8. RKPStogie

    RKPStogie Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2011 Minnesota

    This!!,
     
    #8 RKPStogie, Aug 15, 2013
  9. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    Clearly you are forgetting the biggest variable of them all...FIBS! Once they get a taste and can acquire TG beer on a semi consistent basis, they will cast aside 3 Floyds as some has been brewery. FIBS man... Never forget the FIBS; for they are the greatest hype machine in the region.
     
    #9 Ri0, Aug 15, 2013
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  10. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    ZD is not the beer it once was (something has changed...just not sure what). Sue easily beats it for me when it comes to all Citra hopped APA. If I was a betting man, I'd put money down that Sue will beat ZD in rating by 7/1/2015.
     
    #10 BottleCaps80, Aug 15, 2013
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  11. bnuttz

    bnuttz Zealot (703) Apr 12, 2004 Wisconsin

    I think Sue is better, and I can actually get it on a regular basis, so there is that.
     
    #11 bnuttz, Aug 16, 2013
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  12. psychotia

    psychotia Pundit (857) Jun 27, 2009 Wisconsin

    Omfg it's alllll good... Can't we all just enjoy the beer?? Offer me Sue? Yes please! Zombie dust? Of course! The beer is good. Drink it!
     
    #12 psychotia, Aug 16, 2013
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  13. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    No. Only one beer can be supreme leader of them all. We must have discussion about which one it will be!
     
    #13 Ri0, Aug 16, 2013
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  14. mattafett

    mattafett Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2009 Iowa

    How do you explain their (TG's) extreme batch variances then? Golden Nugget is a fine example. One batch has excellent clarity, and great taste, the next is like fog and tastes off very slightly.
     
    #14 mattafett, Aug 16, 2013
  15. shawnp

    shawnp Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Minnesota

    So, does 'off very slightly' still imply good or better than average in your opinion? Extreme batch variance says to me one may be a 10 and the next batch may be like a cat walked up to you, stood on your head and shat on or in your beer.
     
    #15 shawnp, Aug 17, 2013
  16. mattafett

    mattafett Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2009 Iowa

    I rate this beer a 3.5 when it is at it's best. When taste is off, and appearance is jacked, it tumbles.
     
    #16 mattafett, Aug 17, 2013
  17. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Grand Pooh-Bah (4,064) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    This exactly. I prefer PsuedoSue to Zombie Dust though I still really enjoy Zombie Dust. I strongly agree that ZD should be an IPA based mostly on bitterness levels and its on the cusp of having a bigger body than most APA's. PseudoSue is so drinkable and juicy and so darn citrusy it is just magical and legendary APA. I think PseudoSue is #1 APA hands down.

    TG is also the better brewery. I would like to fast forward to a time when TG has expanded and they are cranking out thier beers on a larger scale. I feel that the quality of TG brewery will remain high even when they start cranking out more volume of craft beers!
     
    #17 4DAloveofSTOUT, Aug 19, 2013
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  18. Hopsiam14

    Hopsiam14 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 Minnesota

    Zombie is awesome! No argument there... Can't wait to side by side these two at Darkness Day! For my money, Pseudo is unmatched. But honestly who cares??? They are both beautiful works of art!
     
    #18 Hopsiam14, Aug 19, 2013
  19. AnalogErik

    AnalogErik Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2013 Minnesota

    Girlfriend gets back from a trip last night and opens the fridge, and says "What the hell is that, did you buy MORE beer this weekend?"
    Me: " I went to Hudson, picked up 2 bottles of FFF Dreadnaught, NG Raspberry Tart & Serendipity, A NG Sampler and a growler of PseudoSue."
    Her: "Oh, gotcha."
     
    #19 AnalogErik, Aug 19, 2013
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  20. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

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