Beer Trade Value Chart

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by mrjmann, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. mrjmann

    mrjmann Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Indiana
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    Ok so i'm posting this with the expectation of getting threadshitted/criticized for encouraging everything that is wrong with the current craft beer community. That being said, i am thinking about putting together a spreadsheet that roughly illustrates the trade values of respective beers based primarily on just observing the ISO/FT board postings, as well as other research factors. It will be sort of a tier-based scale. Not sure if there is already something like this floating around on here but many ISO/FT threads that use point systems kind of already do this (however close or off those points may be). For example, Hommage would be on par with ADwtD, a slight tier below would be DB Huna/BA Abraxas/CFH/Remy's Pappy/DDG, a slight tier below that would be V013/Mocha Wed./BA Sump/Fou Foune/LPK/etc., a slight tier below that would be Prop/LiL/Grey Monday/etc., so on and so forth. I know everybody says that "it just takes the right pair of eyes" and that is true, but more and more it seems that people on here are getting very savvy about researching "appropriate" value before posting and agreeing to trades. Thoughts? Complete waste of time? Let people figure it out for themselves?
     
  2. jshusc

    jshusc Pooh-Bah (1,654) Aug 16, 2013 South Carolina
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    Are you doing it for you or to constantly post in the trade forum to price enforce? If for you, have at it. Probably a waste of time, but hell, if it makes you feel more comfortable about your trades, so be it. If for "educating" others in the trade forum, I would think you would become pretty unpopular pretty quick.
     
  3. C20Percent

    C20Percent Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2011 Virginia

    How will you determine what beers make the cut? Seems like a lot of work.
     
  4. mrjmann

    mrjmann Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Indiana
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    Yeah, good points... the more i think about it, the less i want to do it. I just envisioned some kind of chart to kick around that shows current trade values, or at least what i estimate them to be. Didn't really want to screw with it going forward and try to make it some kind of live database. Actually I kind of hate when value police dominate people's ISO threads... so definitely don't want to put a tool out there to encourage that behavior.

    Given that the values would be correct in the first place
     
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  5. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    problem is it needs to be constantly updated. and also things change. Bramble went from not super hard to really hard to trade for.

    VSB is a whale now, and new breweries like Side Brewery become massive.

    these things are just hard to put a finger on sometimes. the crowd is always changing
     
  6. HotCarlSunday

    HotCarlSunday Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2014 New York

    Exactly - I never even heard of side brewery.
     
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  7. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    Is that Side Project? If not, where is Side brewery & what is it noted for?
     
  8. BradStokley

    BradStokley Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2013 Maryland

    Seems like your heart is in the right place, but a lot of this fluid and opinion based. You could make a flawless spreadsheet today and it could get turned upside down tomorrow morning. My advise, for what it's worth, save your time and drink some good beer tonight instead. Cheers!
     
  9. johnyb

    johnyb Pooh-Bah (2,336) Aug 11, 2012 Florida
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    What is wrong with just using the KHU system? Old King Henry would be ashamed of this discussion.
     
  10. NHhomebrewguy

    NHhomebrewguy Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2012 New Hampshire

    This actually sounds sorta fun. But I'm a geek like that. However, I wouldn't post it sense it's all bases on your opinion of trade values. Just keep it for yourself as references for future trades. If you do end up doing it, have fun with it and try not to stress out. Cheers!
     
  11. mrjmann

    mrjmann Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Indiana
    Trader

    Thanks, I'm probably not going to do it. It sounded good in my head and while I was typing it out but not so much anymore
     
  12. C20Percent

    C20Percent Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2011 Virginia

    Mods please close thread unless @mrjmann decides to create impossible list.
     
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  13. mrjmann

    mrjmann Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Indiana
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    Nope, not creating it.
     
  14. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    I don't think you could do it solely because of how quickly values change... for instance, a lot of people claiming Prop has already fallen off can turn the value pretty quick. Values are also really dependent on the time of year... you know, depending on how long it's been since a release. i.e. trading for Dark Lord immediately after Dark Lord Day compared to in September.
     
  15. mrjmann

    mrjmann Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Indiana
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    Yeah I know... always fluctuating, and it wouldn't have included every beer under the sun either, just the major ones you see getting traded frequently
     
  16. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    yeah, best to lock this since OP isn't planning on actually making the list.

    leaving it up for reference as these ideas come up again and again over time.

    great in principle, but difficult to accomplish practically and nearly impossible to keep current and/or maintain.
     
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