Questionable/Bad BIF/Trading Practices: The_Craft_Deviant_Rob

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  1. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    Howdy everyone,

    I'm posting this on behalf of about 20 or so other people from a BIF (that is still ongoing) called The Locals BIF ( http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-locals-hints-and-hauls-thread.180634/ ). This BIF was started by @The_Craft_Deviant_Rob as an NBO back on May 13 ( http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/nbo-locals.178402/ ).

    Targets were sent out and the shipping window was set from June 1st - June 15th. Everyone sent they're box during this window except for @The_Craft_Deviant_Rob (his target is @Tee2Grn ).... We gave him time, he has said several times that he was going to ship by multiple different dates....we even had some thread lurkers call him out (see @PA-Michigander posts on pages 30 and 31 of the Hints and Hauls thread, which included a response from our BIF organizer who said he would ship by weeks end on June 24)... still he hasn't shipped, @Tee2Grn has no box and now @The_Craft_Deviant_Rob hasn't logged on to BA since July 1. There have been numerous attempts to get in touch with him through BM, text, even calling the liquor store he works at.

    I'm speaking on behalf of several people from our BIF in posting this thread (including @Lehighace06 @_RL_ @heystevec @Tee2Grn @UcDru and @wheelzntoys among others... ) who can all confirm this. Of course none of us wants to call him out, but honestly, we've already started a second round of the BIF and several of us are about to give up and send out some consolation BIF boxes. So I see this as a last resort.

    If anyone else has any ideas or can help, please let us know.

    SEND OUT YOUR BOX @The_Craft_Deviant_Rob
     
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  2. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    And here I thought I was going to get the 'honors' of posting this thread...

    #sayitain'tso @The_Craft_Deviant_Rob
     
  3. _RL_

    _RL_ Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 Maryland
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    C'mon @The_Craft_Deviant_Rob. Some targets have already received their shipments for the second round. You spent much of June posting on this site and you work at a liquor store. Some people in the BIF have kids and/or other significant and time-consuming responsibilities and they managed to get their beer out to their target on time. Get with the program.
     
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  4. devilfluff

    devilfluff Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 New Jersey
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    Jersey gets enough crap without welchers being added to the list.

    Get that beer in the mail!
     
  5. UcDru

    UcDru Maven (1,363) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio
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    Yep the above is no lie. Disappointing to say the least...
     
  6. Tee2Grn

    Tee2Grn Pundit (780) Nov 6, 2012 Michigan
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    Very disappointing. Especially when he set up the BIF
     
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  7. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    by any chance was the new system used so he could be added to the bad trader list?
     
  8. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    He set up the BIF and now is the only one not to send a box? Man, I've never seen that before. Awful
     
  9. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    I still haven't figured out a efficient way to use the new trading system for a BIF when everyone is sending/receiving from a different person.
     
  10. heystevec

    heystevec Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2013 Maryland

    Mind blowing stuff! Be careful fellow BA'ers. But rest assured the rest of us are going to take care of @Tee2Grn
     
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  11. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    This is why I'd love to see a BIF feedback system where (after boxes have mostly gone out, don't want to ruin targets/senders) each person can be assigned to their sender and feedback can be left accordingly.

    For one thing, it provides accountability, and for another it'd help my rating out a bit, I did a bunch of trades early on but at this point I don't see myself doing much besides BIFs and it'd be nice for my participation to be noted similar to if they were 1:1 trades.

    Presumably this system would be utilizted by the BIF OP, I know I wouldn't mind spending a few minutes toward the close of the shipping window to do this... Admittedly, this wouldn't help in this particular case, but I'd assume a Mod could help out in extenuating circumstances such as this.
     
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  12. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    We are not having much luck so far... Still now word from our BIF organizer
     
  13. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I hate to drop word on the great people in that BIF but this dude is not showing up.
     
  14. devilfluff

    devilfluff Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 New Jersey
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    Yeah, we already figured that. Consolation boxes are being prep'd.
     
  15. UcDru

    UcDru Maven (1,363) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio
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    You have any inside information on it or just an educated guess? I have lost faith he is going to show up too pretty disappointing to say the least but I think @Tee2Grn will be well compensated by many of the BIFers.
     
  16. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    He has been absent for 2+ weeks? My bet is he has stopped checking in here because of his absence. I have absolutely zero proof or rationale. He is a deadbeat in the worst way. Start a BIF and not be the one to send out. I hope he never posts on BA again in his life.
     
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  17. Tee2Grn

    Tee2Grn Pundit (780) Nov 6, 2012 Michigan
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    Although I wish it never had to be done, lots of good people cleaning up the mess of one deadbeat is BA at its finest. Unfortunately this isn't the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last time something like this has happened.
     
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  18. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Just keep a vigil. At some point, perhaps six months from now he will want to emerge (I bet he is reading this as a 'guest'. Don't let him slip back into normality.
     
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  19. JasonR1975

    JasonR1975 Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 Michigan
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    Yep.

    I sent out a consolation box in the Hastur's straight up BIF. Although it wouldn't make much sense for me to send you a consolation box, I'm sure you will be well taken care of - and I am in a position to BIF to someone who went above and beyond in helping flush out your sender.

    BA at it's finest.
     
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  20. Mikexw

    Mikexw Pooh-Bah (2,314) Mar 3, 2014 New York
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    Yep consolation shopping done this weekend, but I'm still hoping something magical happens in the next couple of days (like maybe the OP decides to at least contribute the original 144 oz. even if someone else has to ship for him, and even though the rest of us shipped an average of just about double that).
     
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