Why can't I find a beer I like?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by xerojer, Aug 19, 2014.

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  1. xerojer

    xerojer Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2014 Texas

    For the TLDR; "I would like suggestions on different cornerstone beers, so that I can start over to try to assess a flavor pattern that I enjoy. Thanks for reading and suggesting. "

    For some inexplicable reason, I feel the need to seek out a beer that I truly enjoy, despite the fact that I have tried more than a dozen that I haven't really liked. Just when I think I am getting closer to identifying which flavors I like and which I dislike, I discover that my whole basis for picking beers is seemingly flawed. I think part of it is just fun to me, investigating all the different beers, hoping that the next one will be the one for me.

    For instance, I thought that I had found that I disliked hops and bitter flavors, I like sweetness and perhaps maltyness, and that dark beers were likely what I would enjoy. So many stouts are made with good sounding things (milk, chocolate, caramel, fruits like fig and dates.) I love all of those things... but the beer tastes like ass to me. I hate that smokey-ass, burnt-coffee taste that so many stouts, craft-brewed stouts seem to have. Porters are also generally said to have smokey qualities, so I suspect I won't like them either, after all.

    I have tried Celebrator Doppelbock (not bad, but certainly not what I would qualify as a good taste), Aventinus Eisbock (the first flavor is definitely sweet, but it is so ridiculously over-loaded with flavors, and spicy that half of it got poured down the sink), lazy magnolia sweet potato stout (how you can make a beverage with sweet potatoes and it tastes like ass, is beyond me; but that is exactly what they did,) and countless other high-grade brews.

    For one thing, how can other people taste flavors that are just not there for me. I don't understand; if I and another person was blindly given a piece of fruit, surely we could both identify it easily. Yet when it comes to beers, people list off a myriad of flavors that are just NOT there for me. I know it's somewhat open to interpretation, but is it really? Either the beer was made with those flavors or it wasn't.

    I have my theories. For instance, why are there seemingly 8-billion different beers for me to choose from, where gargantuan stores with endless selections of beers and other liquors from all over there world, and yet there are like 20 essential soda flavors to be found. I think it is because nobody really, truly enjoys the liquors. The flavor of Coke was mastered with Coke, that is why there are not 400 variations of it. You have some dozen number of distinctly flavored sodas that are standards of any market within a given region, and they are accepted. The same is kind of true for beer; Bud/Miller/Coors are the Coke, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper of beer, but the difference is that there are not stores dedicated to selections of slightly varied flavors of Coke, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper. I think the big name beer brands, at least in America, are most popular simply because they are the least offensive to the broadest spectrum of pallets, they are of the cheapest of the commodity, economies of scale, and a little bit of luck. Yet people, who do not like the flavor of the mainstream brands, go for craft brews; craft brews that would be mainstream, if they were enjoyed by a broader spectrum of people. So is the only reason for the dedication to beer, that it contains alcohol? So if I have no real innate desire to be inebriated, will it be impossible for me to find a beer that I enjoy?

    I forget where I'm going with this. Oh, yeah... well for one thing, I have never been a huge beer drinker. Since that is the case for me, I never had a time in my youth when I drank lots of shitty, cheap beer out of ignorance and poverty. So I am starting to suspect that I like shitty beer even more than craft beer. For instance, I'm drinking a bud-light platinum, and it tastes as least-shitty as any other beer I have had.

    The Sam Adams Angry Orchard ciders are the closest thing I have had to an enjoyable beer.. and they are, well, ciders.

    So after all of that, I would like suggestions on different cornerstone beers, so that I can start over to try to assess a flavor pattern that I enjoy. I generally like sweeter flavors. I take my coffee with 10 sugar cubes. Thanks for reading and suggesting.
     
  2. imhoudinibitch

    imhoudinibitch Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2014 New Jersey

  3. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    Because there is a vast conspiracy to keep the good beer from you.
     
  4. dianimal

    dianimal Savant (1,006) Apr 18, 2012 California

    Wow. Maybe you should start with water.
     
  5. tviz33

    tviz33 Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2012 New York

    This all sounds very similar to my girlfriend. She hates stouts, porters, many IPAs and DIPAs, but found that she enjoys many sour beers and lambics. Lindemans Framboise is something she actually enjoys. Westbrook Gose is another. Search out some American Wild Ale's and see how you like those.
     
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  6. primrose54

    primrose54 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2009 Ohio

    Try a pumpking its sweet and not a stout.
     
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  7. hopsputin

    hopsputin Grand Pooh-Bah (4,403) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

  8. dbc5

    dbc5 Savant (1,117) Jun 18, 2009 Arizona

    Only if he adds 10 sugar cubes.
     
  9. WTKeene

    WTKeene Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2013 New Mexico

    What kind of alcohol do you like? Are you a white or red wine drinker? Try a saison or lambic. Do you like whisky, whiskey or bourbon? There are a great many beers aged in scotch, whiskey and bourbon barrels. Try finding one of those. There are lots of beers that bear resemblance to other types of alcohol and don't taste very much like "beer."

    That said, you are allowed to not like beer. There are lots of types of alcohol I don't like. Don't feel pressured to find one you do like if one may not exist.

    If you like your beers sweeter but not necessarily dark like a stout, I'd recommend a Belgian style ale, like Tripel Karmeliet or Duvel. Belgians actually brew a number of styles with candi sugar, and they aren't particularly bitter or off-putting in other ways. Just sweeter, easy drinking.
     
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  10. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia

    Maybe you just don't like beer....
     
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  11. beerme411

    beerme411 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2010 California

    As for your conspiracy theory that we all only drink beer for the alcohol. Threads have been created to debate that. For me I would happily drink almost all of the types beers that I do if the taste stayed the same and it was priced like soda.
     
  12. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    Because you're a communist.
     
  13. slym

    slym Zealot (740) Jun 27, 2014 North Carolina

    Try the darker beers without going al the way to porters & stouts. Try a doppelbock, a schwarzbier, some unspiced Belgian ales (dubbels and tripels), the Oktoberfests, even the dunkel hefeweiss like Franziskaner puts out.

    *shrugs*
     
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  14. TheBeerDad

    TheBeerDad Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2012 Michigan

    OP, way to troll on your first post...
     
  15. kevanb

    kevanb Pooh-Bah (2,705) Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Lindemans Framboise
     
  16. orcrist_cleaver

    orcrist_cleaver Initiate (0) May 3, 2014 New York
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    So you want something sweet, flat, and best served warm. BCBS Coffee stout.

    This sounds bad when said in terms of "I take my coffee with 10 sugar cubes."
     
  17. thomda11

    thomda11 Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 California

    It may just be me, but I'm not sure I would devout a significant amount of my day posting on a website dedicated to a beverage that I probably don't enjoy.
     
  18. Knobs303

    Knobs303 Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado

    I Immediately Thought That Too, When I Started Reading His Post.
    Bud Light Platinum...Why Is BA Becoming A Trollfest?
     
  19. Asics

    Asics Pundit (941) Jul 28, 2012 Washington

    You said you like crappier beers (BMC), why not try new pilsners? That isn't to say pilsners are bad at all. I mean you might find better flavors in better versions of what BMC puts out.
     
  20. 64vdub

    64vdub Pundit (848) Feb 20, 2014 California
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    I didn't think anybody still used sugar cubes! Well, except for their second grade igloo project of course :slight_smile:
     
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