Are Sours almost all the same?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Beer-Zombie, Sep 1, 2014.

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  1. JoeAmerican77

    JoeAmerican77 Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2009 Colorado

    When I lived in Boulder, I would walk over to Avery for sours as they used to come out with amazingly complex and different sours, probably still do. Mostly working with brettanomyces and lactobaccillus "spelling" some were tart and bitter, some sweet, some dry, some funky as hell, others tasted more like carbonated chamomile and "wet horse blanket" haha. Not all were great, but some were. Anyways to compare these offerings with many of their classic European counterparts would be like saying an American West Coast IPA is like a an English IPA. Similar ingredients, with possibilities of vast differences in flavors. Sours are meant to go freaking wild and crazy and that leads to many surprises for the palate.
     
  2. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    Until your sour taste buds are mature, you may be overwhelmed by the bugs
    Suggest you try different styles (oud bruin, flanders, gueuze, amer wild) to feel the bigger differences
     
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  3. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Try a Lindeman's Kriek, a Cantillon Kriek, a Duchess de Bourgogne, and a Bockor Cuvee de Jacobins and write back. I'm not being a smart ass, but this is a fairly simple exercise. Also, if you like Rodenbach, figure out why.
     
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  4. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    Good analogy, but wrong conclusion. If bitterness was all that came through in IPAs, then I'd agree. But of course there are so many bold flavors that come through under or around the bitterness. With lots of sours the acidity seems to totally mask whatever other taste may have survived.
     
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  5. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Pooh-Bah (2,211) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    That's like asking, "Are women almost all the same?"

    In which my best answer is: "Yes and No?"
     
  6. gpcollen1

    gpcollen1 Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2005 Connecticut

    And herein lies my problem, when 'sours' get discussed like it is a single style...
     
  7. Beer-Zombie

    Beer-Zombie Pooh-Bah (1,769) Oct 16, 2007 Oregon
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    Ya someone mentioned that earlier. I guess I was focusing on sour bombs as apposed to actual style (Berliner, Flanders, etc)
     
  8. obiwan

    obiwan Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2013 California

    Well all sour beers are beers.
     
  9. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    No. There are a number of sour styles, and even within the styles they will be different just as with other styles. They will all be at least somewhat "sour" though. So if you don't like that characteristic, they might all have a similar characteristic in common that you don't like.
     
  10. yort2009

    yort2009 Crusader (412) Sep 20, 2009 Iowa
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    Go to Cascade Barrel House in Portland. Try all 16 or so that they have on tap. You won't think any of them taste the same.
     
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  11. Guzzle_McBrew

    Guzzle_McBrew Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2014 Connecticut

    This is very accurate, and also a FTFY for even more accuracy.
     
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  12. neurobot01

    neurobot01 Maven (1,289) Jan 25, 2014 Germany

    That joke is too subtle for me. DO NOT APPRECIATE.
     
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  13. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Not sure if joking/sarcastic (internets, you know) but I'm pretty sure at least 3 of those already exist....(maybe all 4 - sour lager?)
     
  14. Guzzle_McBrew

    Guzzle_McBrew Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2014 Connecticut

  15. Lamnic

    Lamnic Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2012 Connecticut

    After reading through the first page I was thinking the exact same thing as @cestlavie. The Almanac sours they've been releasing lately have all been variations on the "dogpatch". They nailed a really solid house culture that churns out very tart, fruity beers in a small amount of time, allowing them to make way more bottles than breweries attempting to use the traditional wild method. I would never complain about what they do because they are all very good, but to compare their beers to Cantillon, Allagash coolships, or any other complex and well balanced sour beers from the guys like RR, JK, (Modern Times I've heard?) would be foolish
     
  16. sukwonee

    sukwonee Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 Washington

    This man (or woman) speaks the truth
     
  17. Silver_Leviathan

    Silver_Leviathan Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Florida

    Did not know those existed already...
    Stoked to try and find them now!
     
  18. chickencoop

    chickencoop Savant (1,017) Jan 4, 2007 California
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    they all taste the same unless you are a hipster
     
  19. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    I see what you've reviewed thus far so anyone on this site can say you have zero credibility on the subject.
     
  20. chickencoop

    chickencoop Savant (1,017) Jan 4, 2007 California
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    ouch..don't tell my boss please. my sour knowledge is what keeps me employed and in with the cool kids.
     
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