Onion bombs

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  1. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    Howdy fellow BA's.

    Couldn't find anything on this subject so I figured I'd make a new thread.

    Anybody have any idea on which specific hop or combination of hops yields the terribly off-putting ( in my opinion ) onion and garlic flavors in a beer? I'm Eastern European so hence a Vampire so garlic is a no no All jokes aside, I've had this happen with quite a few beers from DIPAs to Porters to regular American Stouts.

    Three Heads Too Kind is a DIPA that comes to mind that tasted like I was taking a bite into a raw onion freshly pulled from the dirt. I'm asking the question because I would like to know what to look for in the future to AVOID these beers at all costs.

    Thanks.
     
    #1 Raime, Sep 6, 2015
  2. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Summit
     
    #2 Immortale25, Sep 6, 2015
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  3. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    Enjoy By. Gross
     
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  4. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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  5. WalkerHater

    WalkerHater Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015 Northern Ireland

    Hop Stoopid. Total garlic/onion bomb. Sick
     
    #5 WalkerHater, Sep 6, 2015
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  6. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    Hmmm a few of these beer responses surprise me.

    I really liked Enjoy By, and I thought Hop Stoopid was solid though not as good as everybody says.
     
    #6 Raime, Sep 6, 2015
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  7. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,134) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    Not sure about the hops but the first beer I noticed this with was Stone' Enjoy By.
     
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  8. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Gubna.
     
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  9. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    Original recipe Gubna was the king.

    I get lots of Summit hop flavor (very particular onion/garlic/marijuana type flavor) in Otter Creek Backseat Berner--and I love it. Beer has a great shelf life for an IPA too, > month out and its still dank as hell. If it doesn't actually have Summit in it, I'm a monkey's uncle.
     
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  10. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Grand Pooh-Bah (5,873) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    To me, most highly sessionable-beers have a high green onion note to them.
     
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  11. MattSharpless

    MattSharpless Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2012 Virginia

    I get a lot of onion and garlic in New Belgium's Ranger IPA. When I say "a lot", I mean that's all I taste.
     
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  12. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Devil Dancer ,Gubna and Deviant Dales
     
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  13. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    @Pahn I've had a few DIPAs with the whole marijuana ordeal going on and I enjoyed it. Really didn't pick up any onion in them though. Or maybe the other flavors overruled it to a point where I didn't notice.

    @nc41 Thanks for the heads up, almost bought a six pack a few days back.

    @Monkeyknife I get what you're saying, but for me the sessiona IPAs and such usually get a bit cloyingly sweet after the first three. Not sure why.

    @MattSharpless I actually picked up a lot of onion in Rampant by New Belgium. so if you haven't had it, and don't like onion, I'd say avoid haha
     
    #13 Raime, Sep 6, 2015
  14. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    It actually doesn't :grimacing:. But I suppose it could be the simcoe.
     
    #14 Givemebeer, Sep 6, 2015
  15. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    amazing. i think it probably uses one of those newer hops that has elements of others and throws me off. or i'm just imagining it. all that matters is it's delicious though.

    do you know what other hops are in it?

    yeah, simcoe can be a bit marijuana-y, even moreso chinook can and (arguably--i think so) citra, some of those new tropical ones, nelson and the australian/new zealand hops are often earthy to the point of being cheesy but they can definitely taste like weed. even nugget is a bit weedy now and then.

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    nuts if berner doesn't have it. i swear i taste the straight dank of green flash IIPA, gubna, and my own homebrewed summit IPAs when i taste backseat berner. has kind of a mossman (old heman toy from the 80s) patchouli thing that i've very rarely tasted--exclusively in other beers that advertise their summit. but, if it's not there, it's not there.
     
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  16. DaverCS

    DaverCS Savant (1,212) Dec 9, 2014 Arizona

    Hop Slam

    Gubna
     
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  17. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    Huh. I've always gotten straight up heavy pine and alcohol qualities out of Hopslam.

    As for Summit/Simcoe hops, that would make a lot of sense. After a bit of research, The Too Kind DIPA I mentioned earlier was brewed specifically with those two.
     
    #17 Raime, Sep 6, 2015
  18. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    it uses Cascade Citra and Simcoe. I wouldn't comment if I wasn't sure, I spend a lot of time at that brewery - its so close to me. I agree with your comment on Chinook I get the same flavor. Cheers!
     
    #18 Givemebeer, Sep 7, 2015
  19. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    thanks, and yeah i'm not challenging you or anything; genuinely curious as to what hops are in any great IPA. thanks for the input
     
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  20. fearfactory

    fearfactory Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2012 Massachusetts

    Bitter. Yep.
    Sour. Yep.
    Smoked. Yep.
    Sweet. Yep.
    Malty. Yep.

    Onion? You betcha! Love the onion, looking at you Gubna!
     
    #20 fearfactory, Sep 7, 2015
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