New England IPA

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  1. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Can't believe this thread is still live, but yes, these beers are highly, highly hopped (in the case of Trillium DDH almost absurdly so) yet present very little "bitterness". I find HF Abner to be less bitter than a Budweiser. I certainly haven't had everything from the west cost, but we do get a lot of CA beers, and I find the San Diego area beers can often be extremely bitter. I've drain-poured Green Flash beers for that reason, and find Coronado similar. Many of Stone's offerings are quite bitter. Ballast Point and Lagunitas less so. I found Modern Times Blazing World difficult to drink due to extreme bitterness.

    I sure as hell don't think the ability to make cloudy, super hopped but lightly bittered beers is unique to any one place. But is is currently prevalent in New England more so than in other places, and in most cases, use lighter malts as well. West Coast IPA isn't a style either. American IPA is. These are all variations on American IPAs.
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I prefer to just call them all American style IPAs (to differentiate from British style IPAs).

    Cheers!
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    +1 to that (as I have already posted).

    Cheers!
     
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  4. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    You had to stick that .1% in there didn't you? How about Harpoon Leviathan?

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/98/44755/

    Other than that I can't think of any. On the other hand, readily available 10%+ ABV IIPAs aren't really that common to begin with.
     
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  5. ECdOc

    ECdOc Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2004 Pennsylvania

    Those are already defined style groups, we only have these sub styles for narrowing down what were talking about on a specific beer-by-beer basis. Maybe people don't understand that. We have music styles in the same way, Genres and sub-genres...Metal {Alternative, Death, Thrash, Dark...};Hip Hop/Rap{classic, underground, } etc...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_subgenres_by_genre
    Accept it, it is what it is.
     
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  6. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    The lighting almost makes this beer look respectable. It was hands-down the ugliest beer I've ever seen. It smelled great and had a nice hoppy first impression, but absolutely nothing on the back end.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I will continue to prefer to think of them as being American style IPAs (just like @HuskyHawk).

    Feel free to have your own preferences in this matter.
     
  8. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Boy, do I have nice memories of that beer. My son and I sat at the bar at Neptune Oyster in Boston eating lobster rolls, eating fresh oysters from all over the US and drinking Harpoon IPA draft. It was a perfect match for the food, and now I'm hungry, dammit!
     
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  9. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    Exhibit A :wink:

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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Time for a snack!?!:rolling_eyes:

    Cheers!
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  12. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    I think many of us forget that New England was once land of the English style IPA, which speaks to the "East Coast IPA" tag, which is what so many of us used as a term to decipher between good West Coast IPAs and malty, resinous brews from the Atlantic seaboard. And now you want to add a style which really boils down to golden unfiltered balanced IPAs?

    Nonsense
     
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  13. ECdOc

    ECdOc Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2004 Pennsylvania

    You guys can be as coarse as you want I prefer refinement when I discuss things, otherwise things can become "cloudy". (see what I did there :wink: )

    Cheers!
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Your post touches upon how when folks like to 'define' styles (or sub-styles) with the intention of providing clarity (see what I did there!?!:wink:) it can just as easily create confusion.

    It was not too long ago when some folks would refer to an IPA as being East Coast style IPA their meaning was an IPA that was balanced between hops and malt. An example could be Victory Hop Devil. If you asked people today what sort of beer is an East Coast style IPA you will hear all kinds of responses and one of them would be likely a beer similar to the IPAs brewed at Trillium, Tree House, etc.

    While some might think that using a "coarse" term like American style IPA is less descriptive the fact is that unless a universally accepted 'authority' defines beer style (or sub-styles) with zero ambiguity then creating strata will lead to confusion. Needless to say but confusion does not lead to clarity.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    I see what you did there, and concede to your point
     
  16. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Yeah- back when it first came out IPAs were mostly a homebrewer style, and a lot of them were modeled after Celebration Ale. There weren't too many commercial ones besides Grant's. That Harpoon can still be pretty nice if you catch it fresh and on draught.
     
  17. IpaBeerDrinkers

    IpaBeerDrinkers Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2014 California

    There aren't cloudy citrus IPAs on the west coast?
    The west coast doesn't use southern hops?

    Just like there are brewers everywhere doing West Coast Ipa, brewers elsewhere are doing NE ipa. Now, NE might be the best at it, but its being done elsewhere too
     
  18. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Got the Mantle, Aaron, and Mays of NE IPAs today at the brewery (ok..Pier isn't exactly Mays....maybe Big Papi?). Went next door to Row34 for a few oysters and a Billy Full Stack DIPA....and finished w an oak aged Yeti. I think the epicenter of the NE IPA style has moved quite resoundingly from Greensboro Bend/Waterbury to Fort Point....where will it go next?
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  19. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Last Headroom tonight -- Trills Hop Jam VT offering from August. Learn to love the Opaqueness....it's the NE IPA style...
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  20. HoppedChef84

    HoppedChef84 Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2015 Rhode Island

    Owned. Now, I'm gonna sit back and drink my captains daughter while you all battle it out. Cheers!
     
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