16.9 oz Bourbon County Stout - Too much?

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  1. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    So while waiting in line to get bourbon county on black friday (first time I've gotten a bottle in 3 years thanks to insane demand and more and more stores getting less and less), I over heard a few people make this comment.

    The 16.9 oz format is too much for one person and not enough for two people.

    Stone has done this format as well with their double bastard barrel aged version, and while I think both can work for two people or one person if you're ok with not driving later. I have to say, splitting the bottles with a group even a small one, the missing oz are really missed from a bomber.

    I almost feel an 8 oz bottle would have been better to allow more bottles spread out to more people or just the same people with more bottles so more of this gets aged a bit longer. Either way I'm not sure I like high abv beer in the 16.9 format. I'd honestly just rather see them raise prices on the 22 oz bottles which seem to well at 20+ for good beers anyway.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    I was initially out off by the size as well, but one 500ml split into two GI chalices for my wife and I was PERFECT. Enjoyed it but could still taste enough and was sober enough to review a couple more beers that night.
     
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  3. jwheeler87

    jwheeler87 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 Massachusetts

    Nah. Drink it slow enough, and you should be fine. It took me a couple hours to take one down last night, and I was fine when I finished it.
     
  4. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Pooh-Bah (2,122) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    Just the right amount, just don't plan on driving anywhere for the next 8 hrs.... :wink::grinning:
     
  5. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,380) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Aside from increasing profits per oz, there was no good reason to switch from the 12oz format. Remember who owns Goose Island?
     
  6. OldRickSputin

    OldRickSputin Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Illinois

    If 16.9 oz isn't enough for 2 people, an 8oz bottle wouldn't be enough for one.


    12 oz bottles are great...16.9 are 4.9 oz better...IMO.

    But I understand the OP's feelings.
     
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  7. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    I honestly don't really have a strong view on 16.9 for drinking. I'm pretty ok catching a buzz or more so I mean no worries for me, but I did at least like the option of responsibility (this one is kinda pushing the line). But still no strong opinion.

    I will however point out, there was seriously ZERO things stopping goose island from just bumping the price of the 12 oz bottles to 10 each, no longer including the 4 pack holders, and making even more profit. Based on the number of people in line an hour + before opening at stores where they was ONLY bourbon county and the barely wine (many people declined to get one of those), so no coffee or rare or whatever else, there's just nothing that could have stopped them from jacking up prices and having a day one sell out in most major areas.

    Off topic (I think we've had topics on the new bottle already), but the new bottles are really ugly. You can't even read the glass without putting a lot of light on it. But I doubt they were a cost saver.
     
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  8. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    Good point on the 8 oz. I'm always just kinda after more bottles for aging as this beer is just so much better aged, and well I'm already drinking one of my insanely small supply because I miss these now that they're like unicorn in the wild.
     
  9. vileplume

    vileplume Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2015 Arizona

    They look like old tyme root beer bottles methinks. Wish they kept rare, regal and prop in bombers but whatever.
     
  10. ajchocholousek

    ajchocholousek Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2011 Minnesota

    16.9, 12, 26.45, 10.85, who cares. These new bottles are pure sex.
     
  11. MisterBisco

    MisterBisco Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2009 New York

    I would have preferred a 10oz package myself. This package size drives me crazy.
     
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  12. dprice

    dprice Zealot (502) Feb 24, 2014 Delaware
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    I like to share beer with friends 16.9 format doesn't work for me. I like what stone did with xocovenza went from bomber to six pack for the holiday. I can give a friend 1 or 2 to try keep the rest for myself. How long will the bourbon barrel crazy last . I think the root beer crazy is dying down, what's next, craft beer is becoming gimmicky
     
  13. BryanReed

    BryanReed Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Idaho

    The 16.9oz bottles were okay for me. My snifter is 12oz, so with an 8oz pour, that leaves just enough room for my ice cubes and beer salt.
     
  14. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    I'm not wild about the new size either. one 12 oz bottle of BCBS was perfect for me, this size is pushing it a bit, but on the other hand it's a great size for a bottle tasting or session between two people, gives a satisfying dose but leaves room for other beers.
     
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  15. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    For me, the 16 or 500 ml sizes are perfect for beers < 8% or so - and almost perfect for a higher abv; almost since for a higher abv since I need to adjust my pace.

    But let's face it - there's no one size that everyone will agree is the best. Everybody's different.
     
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  16. JimmyShaker1

    JimmyShaker1 Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2015 Illinois

    I opened a regal last night and could only get through half of it. So yes too much for 1 person but probably perfect for two. I like 12 oz format the best and sold in 4pks.
     
  17. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I was initially not wild about the format change, but 16.9 is perfect for splitting between two people, and it's certainly easier to take to the dome by myself than a 22 oz bomber.

    It may change my occasional penchant for cracking a BCBS as a nightcap, since I'm probably not going to down a pint of 14% abv stout at the end of the night, but all in all, I think the format change has it's usefulness.

    As noted above, the main problem seems to be with the variants--rye, prop and rare--and not really having a good amount for a bottle share. A 16.9 oz bottle could work for a 4-person share, but any larger than that and you really need two bottles.
     
  18. threedaggers

    threedaggers Maven (1,448) Dec 2, 2013 Kentucky
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    16.9oz fits perfectly in the new snifter, and is also a great serving size. In the past 2x 12oz bottles would be a lot, but 1x 12 was never enough.
     
  19. Reds76

    Reds76 Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2014 Maine

    I can’t understand how 16.9oz is too much for one person. A beer and a third compared to a 12oz bottle. My wife can drink a whole one easily. We did and then some last night while decorating house for the holidays! Fix the spelling please - 16.9oz of Bourcon might be too much lol.
     
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  20. Mitchell57

    Mitchell57 Zealot (626) Jan 8, 2013 Wisconsin

    That quantity is fine for two people. 8oz of a 15% beer should be plenty for anyone. I don't prefer needing to drink a 16.9oz beer of that high an abv alone most nights
     
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