Bottleworks 17th Anniversary

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by bigmanlavos, Jan 26, 2016.

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  1. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Bellingham-only, right? ;-)
     
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  2. TboneRN

    TboneRN Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2014 Minnesota

    Do they ever distribute these?
     
  3. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    The Stone beer saw distribution, but the rest (at least recently) were Bottleworks only.
     
  4. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    Even in the old days they weren't distributed.
     
  5. NWer

    NWer Pooh-Bah (2,145) Mar 10, 2009 Washington
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    Best thing about "that magical time of year" is they usually have had BW XII on tap.
     
  6. lordofthelambics

    lordofthelambics Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Washington

    Did you know that the recipe is now part of the regular Terreux lineup? (Beret, I believe).
     
  7. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    That gin barrel aged Baltic Porter was one of the best things I had last year. Gonna be hard to top it.
     
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  8. dirtylou

    dirtylou Grand Pooh-Bah (3,352) May 12, 2005 Oklahoma
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    Probably thousands of bottles still available. Personal opinions aside, it did not sell well.
     
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  9. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    I like it a lot, would be up for buying another if the markup isn't stupid.
     
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  10. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    I read that more as more of a sign of how fickle people can be. If that same beer had a label that read "Tree House" instead of "The Ram" it would have sold out and been talked up much more.
     
  11. dirtylou

    dirtylou Grand Pooh-Bah (3,352) May 12, 2005 Oklahoma
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    No doubt that brand names carry major weight, 'usually' which is earned. I had it on draft - just a meh for me. If it's back on tap around the 17 release, I'll get a pour.

    The Crooked Stave 17 description is pretty vague - I typically like their dry hopped golden 'sourz' more than their abrasive fruited stuff, though
     
  12. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well then, I'll have to see if I can score a couple!
     
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  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I'm with Dirtylou on this. While your point is well taken, who's fault is that?

    If every beer you'd had from a brewery had been "meh" at best, and then suddenly the brewery produced a beer that they wanted you to believe was extraordinary, would you run right out and buy a case of it? Probably not I'm guessing.

    Truth be told, I'm constantly hearing about new beers that the brewer wants me to believe are extraordinary, but more times than not, they're anything but. The only reason I know anything about this beer is because of what I read last year in this forum when it was released (and so for a change, I would be interested in trying it).

    If you've been making beers that the public perceives as mediocre since your inception, don't blame the public now if they don't run out to buy every bottle you make, the first time you make something truly interesting. Rightfully, they're going to be skeptical, and your probably going to have to make more than one "really good" beer before you can turn things around.

    Frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised this beer hasn't sold well, no matter how good it may actually be. That's not being fickle, that's simply customers basing current and future purchasing decisions based on past performance.
     
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  14. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    this seems especially true with barrel aged stouts. so many breweries are trying put one out and at least 75% are "meh" when compared to the better options that are out there
     
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  15. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    The problem with that line of thinking is you're assuming people were even familiar with the quality of beer being brewed by some of those brewers. The underwhelmed reaction was one born out of ignorance instead of firsthand knowledge. You're wrong, people (BA folks, not the general public) weren't stopping in at Northgate and saying, "wow this beer is mediocre/sucks." By and large they weren't stopping in period. And for many it wasn't that they ever had a bad experience there.

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bottleworks-anniversary-beer.254833/
    Consider the following sentence from dirtylou himself in the thread where that beer was announced. He wrote them off before he had even tried a single beer from The Ram:
    "How on earth could they land on Ram? I've never been to a Ram, had a Ram beer, and that doesn't appear to be changing. Could there have been a worse 'local' brewery to choose?"
    Granted, he said he didn't like it once he tried it, but again his initial reaction (which was similar to a lot of people unfamiliar with The Ram) was not a favorable one and it was not based on first hand knowledge.

    In that same thread you mentioned you'd not been to the Northgate location in 7-8 years. A lot can change in that amount of time (about 3 changes at the brewer position as a matter of fact). If people had looked at two of the guys designing the recipe and focused on that (Bill Jenkins and Kevin Forhan) instead of being let down that it wasn't some a massively hyped brewery like Alpine or something, definitely would have sold better.
     
  16. ballardbeer

    ballardbeer Pundit (779) Nov 10, 2013 Oregon

    did the Ram serve this at their brew pubs? i've got this awful image of a gin-barrel aged baltic porter in a frosty pint glass.
     
  17. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    It was a love or hate beer. I definitely loved it.
     
  18. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Looks like a riff on Bottleworks 12; but the ABV is different so it can't be the "same" beer. It strikes me as a drier beer. But damned delicious. One more bullet point in my case that the Bruery regular lineup of beers is criminally neglected and under rated.
     
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  19. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    For selfish reasons, I love it when a brewer/brewery flying under the radar puts out something great. Getting a hyped beer from a vaunted brewery can be exciting, but finding quality beer that was under everyone's nose and ignored because it didn't come from a household name is where I find the most enjoyment. I love that people in this forum are usually quick to speak up when they find one of those sleeper beers.
     
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