Barrel aged appearance?

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  1. MortarPestle

    MortarPestle Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2008 Indiana

    Some of the reviews have notes such as, "doesn't look barrel aged" or "only appears about 20% barrel aged". How does a beer appear differently when it has been barrel aged?
     
  2. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I drink a fair bit of BA stouts and I couldn't tell you. Maybe less head?
     
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  3. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    I've never seen that in a review and, if I did, I'd stop reading it because it would become immediately clear that person has no idea what they're talking about. You can't tell that a beer has been barrel-aged by appearance alone. Ridiculous.
     
  4. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I have no idea. But it is amazing how many people believe everyone is out to screw them.
    Appearing barrel aged? What abv are these beers being reviewed?
    Because, If a brewer is going to put any sort of extra work into making something. They are going to be upfront and tell you that they did a bunch of extra work in making something. I know I wouldn't waste the extra time it takes me to blend something unless I was going to tell you that I blended it. Any time I buy a beer that has barrel whatever near it. I read the label. It tells me. We blended this barrel with this barrel for this reason. Or, we blended it with our regular to give it some of that barrelly goodness without overwhelming the original idea. All of that takes extra effort. Planning. Coordination. Time. Etc. That's not going to go unmentioned. Sorry.
    My best guess is... They must mean legs. Not everything barrel aged is going to be big enough to achieve that. Plenty of barrel aged things will never show legs because they just won't. For example. The 5.3% stout we barrel aged at the first brewery I worked at was never going to show big sexy legs, no matter how hot the barrel it came from was. We could get some stickiness to the glass with our strong ale, but again at its 8% abv starting point. That barrel had to taste like fire for that beer to show any sort of tearing up.
     
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  5. Kevin67

    Kevin67 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2015 Arkansas

    I've read this once in a review, and have heard it a couple of times during shares. Actually, it wasn't that they could or couldn't see the barrel aging. It was simply that the person either couldn't taste the barrel presence or, in the cases of the shares, the barrel presence wasn't as pronounced as they would have liked. At least this has been my experience. I sincerely hope that any BA isn't stupid enough to believe they can tell if a beer has been barrel aged just by appearance.
     
  6. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    By appearance only? :astonished:
    I don't think that's possible.
    If I came across that I would completely disregard the entire review, if I even continued to read it, which I would do to see what other statements would give me a good laugh.
     
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  7. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    That's a new one... never seen anyone on write that on here...
     
  8. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    Other than a reduced head, I can't think of any appearance factor...unless oak chips were floating around...lol.
     
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  9. MortarPestle

    MortarPestle Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2008 Indiana

    What prompted this thread was after reading reviews here: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/96528/

    "Holy shit this is dark for a partially barrel aged stout." Implying that a barrel aged stout shouldn't be this dark. Maybe they didn't mean anything by the barrel aged part of the comment, but then why add it?

    "Beautiful stout. It looks more than 25% barrel aged."

    These were the two that stuck out, I didn't read all the reviews.
     
  10. loebrygg

    loebrygg Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2016 Norway

    Except from the foam, maybe a bit more "translucent"
    The barrels may extract some of the colour
     
  11. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    The only thing in terms of appearance that I've ever noticed in terms of BA v. non-BA is head. BA stouts tend to have less head in my experience. So when I see a BA beer with a nice thick head it makes me happy.

    Eh, some stouts are certainly darker than others, including BA stouts. And that particular beer is partially barrel aged. I can see what they were getting at.
     
  12. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I have no idea. Interesting thought processes though.
     
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  13. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    i would think most of the instances you've caught don't mean literal judgement based on sight appearance. for your purposes those are probably poorly used or placed terms.

    keep in mind, from what i notice when folks try to provide reviews many try to avoid using the same words a thousand times. so instead of repeating "Tastes", "Smells" they might substitute things like "Appears to be" "Looks like" etc. as a substitute.
     
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  14. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Hey, at least its a review that is trying to say something about the beer. How many have you seen that say nothing about the beer but say everything about the reviewer just to get to the minimum character number. here's one that only took me one minute to find "Guinness is my go to beer. Tried hundreds of others but this is my favorite. For me it's a perfect beer. I'm tired of crap IPAs and craft beers. Stick with a winner. Drink Guinness."
     
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  15. HeyItsThatGuy

    HeyItsThatGuy Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2016 Illinois

    "Sexy Legs"? .....You just made beer sound sexy.
     
  16. HeyItsThatGuy

    HeyItsThatGuy Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2016 Illinois

    How does barrel-aged beer look? I don't know, a little weathered, perhaps a grey beard? A bit wooden on the outside? But naw all I've ever seen with my barrel-aged stuff is a reduced head, just about what half the people here are sayin'. Barrel aging rarely does much for the actual color, except perhaps maybe aging in a wine barrel, usually red with a not-so dark beer. I once had a Saison aged in Pinot Noir barrels and it did seem to provide a reddish tint to the beer.
     
  17. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I can spot a barrel-aged beer every time. Says it right there on the label. :wink:
     
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  18. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Let's quote that one. I bolded it even.
     
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  19. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Maybe, maaaaybeeee, the color might change a little bit, depend on the beer, and the type of barrel used. Say a Saison aged in a red wine barrel might pick up a little, teensy bit of color. Other than something like that, I think anybody who says they can see barrel aged beer is dumber than a box of rocks.
     
  20. luvabrew

    luvabrew Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2015 New York

    Taste is what comes through in barrel aged, forget about the appearance. Just had Schmaltz's Circum Session out of Clifton Park, NY. Unique tart pomegranate paired with rich barrel aged flavor, perfectly complementary.
     
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