Feelings on IPAs with adjuncts?

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  1. Dharmelink

    Dharmelink Pundit (934) Feb 28, 2017 Wisconsin
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    I feel like IPAs with adjuncts (passion fruit, guava, blood orange) are BS. Hop masters like Treehouse and Trillium can make those flavors with just the hop profile. I feel like I may as well be drinking a Leinenkugels shandy!

    But I feel like somewhat like a hypocrite because I live stouts and sours with adjuncts. Gimme barrel-aged stouts with coffee, cocoa nibs, vanilla beans, chiles, etc all day.

    Anybody else feel this way?
     
  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Thinking that some additions work while others don't, depending on the circumstance, doesn't make you a hypocrite. Nobody's making anybody choose sides :wink:.
     
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  3. Jugs_McGhee

    Jugs_McGhee Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,140) Aug 15, 2010 Texas
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    Examples of adjuncts: unmalted barley, wheat, corn, rice, oats, rye, and sorghum.

    Between oats and wheat alone, you've got a good portion of those new hazy IPAs all the kids are into included, which - looking at current ratings for such IPAs - would suggest feelings on IPAs with adjuncts are quite favorable at this point in time. Nevermind the fruit and/or vanilla bean adjunct IPAs you're talking about.
     
  4. Dharmelink

    Dharmelink Pundit (934) Feb 28, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Well, I guess I mean "cheating" by adding fruit juices rather than maximizing the new hops or double dry hopping. Just clarifying for the Poo-bahs commenting :slight_smile:
     
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  5. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,670) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    They don't bother me, and I figure as much as I enjoy some of our crazier craft beer combinations, it's small penance having to negotiate a beer aisle half full of mocha-grapefruit-vanilla IPAs.

    There is a pale ale brewed with smoked jalapenos here in Texas that I love (No Label's Don Jalapeno -- https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24326/80522/). And the couple of grapefruit IPAs I've tried have been tasty.
     
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  6. Dharmelink

    Dharmelink Pundit (934) Feb 28, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Especially Ballast Point fruiting up a lot of their beers...Maybe I should be more accepting?

    Is the only "fruited IPA" in the top 250 Pipeworks Spotted Puffer?

    By the way, I appreciate a lot of experienced BA'ers throwing in their opinions
     
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  7. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Not a huge fan of adjuncts in my IPA, not to say it can't be done right. Just tend to steer clear.

    That sounds freakin' delicious. That's coming from someone who loves eating spicy food, but always gets unpleasantly burnt by "hot" beers.
     
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  8. Dharmelink

    Dharmelink Pundit (934) Feb 28, 2017 Wisconsin
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    Garage Project (New Zealand) makes some interesting combos like Umami Monster I've been too chicken to try...
     
  9. Subcontrabass

    Subcontrabass Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2014 North Carolina

    With apologies to Satchmo:

    There are two kinds of IPAs: the good, and the bad. I like the good kind.
     
  10. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I prefer my IPA to not have fruit or other flavoring in them. A nice crisp piney IPA is great. An IPA that has grapefruit and other citrus flavors from hops I like , added juice not so much.

    I do like flavors added into stout and coffee IPA I am ok with.



    Enjoy
     
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  11. Mindsculptor

    Mindsculptor Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2013 Texas

    If it works, it works. I'm a fan of Stone's Mocha IPA, for example, I think the coffee and chocolate offset the bitterness beautifully.
     
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  12. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Generally not a big fan of fruit added to my IPA. But I do really like Spotted Puffer.
    I guess, for me, it needs to be done really well or why bother.
     
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  13. doktorhops

    doktorhops Pooh-Bah (2,065) Jan 12, 2011 Australia
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    Horses for courses, brewing isn't some grand competition where the brewery that gets certain flavours using hops alone wins some kind of trophy - this isn't 16th century Germany.

    I say if you can get grapefruit flavours without using grapefruit: good for you. If you can brew with grapefruit in an IPA and perfectly accentuate its flavour (and I'm thinking BrewDog Elvis Juice here) then: also good. The real winner: us craft beer lovers!

    Drink beer and be awesome. :slight_smile:
     
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  14. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I love oats and wheat in my IPAs! I love the creamy texture and flavor they impart! :slight_smile:

    (Fruit and spices aren't adjuncts. :wink: They are "flavors", "flavorings" or "spices", which is why beers brewed with fruits or spices are often labeled as "flavored malt beverage" or "...brewed with natural flavoring.")
     
  15. Steve_Studnuts

    Steve_Studnuts Maven (1,355) Apr 21, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I almost picked some of this up tonight, but ultimately decided that it probably wouldn't work. Especially at 17 dollars a sixer. May have to rethink that.
     
  16. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    fruit and spices aren't brewing adjuncts.
     
  17. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I notice that the Brewers Association has some "member only" Reports prepared by IRI in which these beverages are referred to as "Infused Beers".
    Of course, calling cider a "beer" is just as incorrect as calling chocolate an "adjunct".:rolling_eyes:

    The mid-2016 BA/IRI report noted that "Infused Craft Beer" was closing in on 10% of Total Craft Dollar Sales.
     
  18. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    If done well, I like them a lot (grapefruit sculpin comes to mind)
     
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  19. Wiffler27

    Wiffler27 Pooh-Bah (2,092) Aug 16, 2009 South Carolina
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    I'm not a fan of fruited/juiced IPAs. To me, they come off as too sweet and have a weird flavor. You can make an IPA taste that fruity/juicy just by using certain hops and hopping techniques.
     
  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    And that 10% includes FMB and cider?... wow, that number is so low. The fruit beers must make up almost none of that then. But if that's the case, I also wonder what is included/excluded in all three of those groups. Is it just "craft" FMB and cider (if they make such a distinction in those categories) and the "fruit/spiced beer" category can obviously become blurry with other beer categories (would kriek, radler, and a stout with a very small amount of brewer's licorice all get lumped into that together?).
     
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