I was in too deep: my exit from the craft scene

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by AlienSwineFlu, Sep 16, 2017.

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  1. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    This is my first post in about a year. On with it... my Untappd profile shows that I've checked in to a little over 2,600 unique beers, ~95% of which are from 2013-2016. I was hitting shares and releases multiple weekends a month and pretty much always had a trade in the works or one coming in the mail. I had ticked almost all the beers in the BA Top 100 as of early 2016 but I'm sure most of those have fallen from the ranks by now, replaced by beers I'm no longer familiar with made by breweries that have probably started up since I left most of my FB trade pages. Don't get me wrong, I lived pretty well but I was still spending more than a responsible amount of money on bottle releases and trading. Had I saved all the money I spent on my craft habit during that time period, I probably could've went on a couple extra international vacations.

    It's not just a money thing. Most aspects of the scene started to make me feel uneasy... I saw a lot of dads giving up beautiful Saturdays in the summer and fall to stand in line for hours and get drunk by noon. I saw a lot of husbands give up nights they could spend alone with their wives to drag them to some sausage fest bottle share for the third time that month. A lot of people didn't even have free nights any more it seemed, because their 8-9 off days each month were booked by beer events so they wouldn't miss a coveted tick. Lots of people I know would skip out of hanging out with real-life friends so they wouldn't miss a share with some borderline-strangers. Recently, a dude local to me has been catching fire for leaving his kids in a car while he stood in line at a release.

    I know this is a weird rant, but if you're one of those people, take a second to step back and ask yourself if you're obsessed. There's a lot more to life, and you don't want to miss your time that you could be out living because your stuck in line again or drunk before the sun goes down. Besides, beer is a lot better now and a lot of shelf stuff is killing things I used to trade for a few years ago. And honestly, missing out on the latest hot thing really doesn't matter too much. Chances are you'll barely remember it a year from now anyway. Oh yeah, and in my new clarity, I've realized snifters are stupid.

    -Alien
     
  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I never considered that stuff an integral part of the beer scene anyway, and one could happily have beer as a rewarding component of their life and never stand in a line or put pen to paper. Just take it as it comes and you'll be fine.
     
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  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Congrats on your becoming aware of your surroundings. Self control is a good thing that has numerous rewards that go beyond material possessions. You aren't the only one who depends on your knowing that.

    Cheers to the rest of your life!
     
  4. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    People need hobbies and often become obsessed with them. I love mountain biking and see the same thing. Guys shelling out thousands of dollars for new components, spending their weekends to ride 5 hours and then drinks with friends.

    I found myself wrapped up with chasing beers, spent all my free time on beer related things. Then it became mountain biking.

    Recently I have found a balance for both. I agree people need to take a step back on anything that is consuming their life whether that is beer, work, exercise etc.
     
  5. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I hadn't realized how much beer was effecting my performance in sports until I took two weeks off just to see what happened. I no longer felt like trash 3 days after a workout.

    I've decided to take a break from craft beer after that realization. I'll start drinking again after my marathon. I want beer to be fun, but not what I revolve every evening and weekend around.
     
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  6. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Good post OP. I think another thing is that what people consider normal is very slanted on this site because we are all into craft beer. People on the outside of the scene would be horrified about some of the craft beer culture.
     
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  7. StartedwithSAM

    StartedwithSAM Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Virginia

    Thanks for sharing OP, a nice self-reflection.

    Well said GetMeAnIPA. This can be applied to life in general [In everything moderation]. For me beer is a side hobby of mine, I'm an enthusiast but don't chase trucks. Some folks can manage that lifestyle, others can't, it depends on what is important to you. I aspire to one day become a beer geek as defined in the latest BA issue :slight_smile:.
     
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  8. dlcarst

    dlcarst Zealot (733) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    I'm only part of the scene in that I have a beer or two every night, visit the liquor store every week, hit up other stores when I'm in other towns every few weeks, visit a brewery every few weeks, and a brew fest every few months. I read BA mag every month and browse the forums a few minutes a day and occasionally read a beer book. I have accumulated about 3 dozen glasses and a small fridge "cellar," and once in a while (after a trip) have a bit of excess beer in the closet, but for the most part I'm in a good place with beer. I don't pay over 20 bucks a bottle, I rarely spend over 10, I don't chase trucks, I don't stand in lines, I don't get drunk (except on rare occasion when a beer fest has too many high ABV beers), I don't take my kids to breweries unless it's just for lunch or early dinner, and I don't spend 15%+ of my income on beer, but I do see many people who do all this with regularity. Ffor many people, that's how they want to spend their lives, and if they enjoy it and it's not negatively affecting their relationships with spouses and kids, then that's fine. But anything can be addictive and people can let it control their lives with negative effect.

    But I love my 16 oz snifter, it's my go-to stout/barleywine glass. I won't let it discredit your entire post, which was otherwise on point.
     
  9. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Great post.

    Many BAs are in the beer industry in some ways, many have been on beercation, probably some have waited for hours in line for a release.

    We have had similar posts/threads before, whether for money or health reasons, but it's always interesting to hear a self-reflection about a hobby becoming an 'obsession'.

    Curiously, I drink much less now than I used to, you have heard it before a thousand times - drink less, drink better! So congrats and thanks for the interesting feedback. I hope you still enjoy a beer every now and then, one that's affordable and easy to obtain. Cheers.
     
  10. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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  11. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Savant (1,078) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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    An excellent post. Prob one of the best I've read on the site since joining BA.
    Past two weeks I've been walking that line also. A recent release that I was at and the things I saw there made me take a step back and think about my craft journey the past 4 years. There are better stuff on the shelves now then there were in the past. Local breweries are brewing different styles all year round and starting to catch up on all the haze craze that ignited the craft world two years ago and it seems like everyone has a barrel program going. With all the different stuff coming out and how our palates are evolving with tasting all the variety out there chances are we won't remember it in a year. We consume beer. It doesn't have to consume us. Win some, lose some your just not going to be able to try everything out there.

    Ps. I love my Bourbon County snifter though.
     
  12. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I really think anything in life can get out of control. I know a bunch of people consumed by eating good all the time and exercising to the point of having no life. So with that said everything in life needs to be moderated and balanced with other parts of your life. If you live by that mantra then its never an issue least I never ran into one.
    :sunglasses:
     
  13. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    I love this thread. Last year I admitted as much that I'm an alcoholic. I fight it every f*cking week. I went sober for 5 months and realized my mood swings made me more of a monster than when I would drink -- I've always been a happy drunk. Anyway, I've never spent a minute in line for a beer, but that doesn't make me a better guy. I'm just glad there's a thread like this to call attention to issues. The people that struggle like myself get brushed to the side, be we're out there folks. We're everywhere.
     
  14. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    Moderation in anything is key, and it doesn't sound like you were very moderate. It happens. Ease off the throttle and you may find that beer can be tasty AND fun.

    #RespectBeerButItsJustBeer
     
  15. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    This is very true and a great point. Unfortunately it's not easy to obtain.
     
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  16. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Once again, if you're not addicted you don't understand how difficult it is. Maybe I'm speaking for myself and not the original post. Some people can't just "ease off" ... this is a very complex issue so please know that I'm not scolding you. Cheers
     
  17. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I totally understand :slight_smile:
     
  18. pianoguy

    pianoguy Pundit (882) Feb 14, 2015 Washington

    Life is all about balance
    The older I get, the more I realize this...
     
  19. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I mentioned above I recently found a balance. I love beer so I never wanted to give it up but struggled to find moderation. I was drinking everyday, sometimes only 1 -2 beers but then drinking a lot other nights. I found that it was just habit to come home and start drinking.

    It wasn't until I decided to take a break that I realized how hard it was to not drink one day. Now I am not drinking more days than I am.
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    In my opinion this is a negative aspect of the contemporary beer scene.

    What would be 'better' in my opinion is if the family stayed and played together and yes beer can be a part of that (if not consumed in excess). A few Sundays ago I was at a local brewery (Hidden River) and on Sundays it is bring your own food day and pets (dogs) are welcome. I saw two families with multiple children and two dogs there having a picnic on the lawn. The children were playing amongst themselves (and sometimes the parents joined in) and all of the adults were drinking some beer in a responsible manner. Everybody (dogs, kids, adults) were having a great time having a picnic and enjoying the excellent Hidden River beer.

    Cheers!
     
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