Over hopped IPA

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  1. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Pooh-Bah (2,795) Sep 14, 2014 New York
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    Hello all,

    I'm a very amateur 1 gallon homebrewer. So far, my batches have been passable.
    However, I think I really screwed it up this time. At the beginning of the boil I put 4X as much hops as I was supposed to because I confused grams with ounces. (Stupid I know)
    It seems like I'm going to end up with an extraordinarily bitter beer. According to one online calculator, it can end up as much as 200 IBU.
    Anything I can do to rescue it? Perhaps aging it? Suggestions greatly appreciated.
     
  2. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Let it ride. I've done "theoretical" IBU's near 300 and the end result was fantastically balanced. In the real world, IBU's are like a log curve... Closer you get to 100, the harder it is to go higher.

    The end result will be determined by your recipe, types of hops used, FG, water profile, etc... Many factors. Don't sweat it!
     
  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I would resolve to have a beer that was more bitter than intended. We're only talking about 10 bottles of beer or so in a 1 gallon batch. They'll mellow some over time.

    If you can't bear the thought of 10 bottles of extra bitter beer, you could buy the same recipe kit and brew another batch, making the opposite mistake -- omit the bittering hops and add extra hops to the later hop additions that you missed the first time around. Blend your too-bitter batch with your not-enough-bitter batch to approximate the recipe you intended.
     
  4. MyThoughtsExactly

    MyThoughtsExactly Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2015 Virginia

    I did something similar a couple years ago. It will mellow out a little with time, but it will still be very bitter months from now.

    I would go with pweis909's second suggestion. Brew 1 gallon of the same beer or something similar, but under bitter it then blend them.
     
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  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If the idea of blending out the bitterness sounds good to you but you are pressed for time and can't brew another, you can always blend in the glass with commercial beers. That means having two beers open at one time, but it could be an interesting learning experience if you choose a few different types of beer as blenders.
     
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  6. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Pooh-Bah (2,795) Sep 14, 2014 New York
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    Thanks for the suggestions. I'm leaning towards just aging it. I love IPAs regardless and have pretty high threshold for bitter palates.
    I have never blended but might consider giving it a shot. In a snapshot, what exactly do I do?
     
  7. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Do you bottle?

    If so, try them fresh and see how you like it. I still think this is a "mountain out of a mole hill" type situation, I'm sure it will be great as is. If not, then let age... But it will lose some of the brighter hop notes.
     
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  8. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    This would not matter to the average hophead out there/here :wink:...but if you are looking for flavor with minimal bitterness, don't boil your hops...just steep them right before you chill your wort...and use as much as you want :grin:
     
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  9. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Pooh-Bah (2,795) Sep 14, 2014 New York
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    Ha ha! Too late! It's already in the fermenter. I'll just wait it out and see.i do like palate wrecking bitterness but it was not what I was going for this time. I don't mind if it's really bitter, as long as it's drinkable.
     
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    It really is as simple as it sounds. But I always recommend that before you blend a large batch, you work with smaller samples to find the ratio that works for you. Once you get that, you scale up, and you blend proportionally in your bottling bucket or keg. If bottling bucket, add priming sugar, stir gently to mix, give it 10 minutes or so to equilibrate, and bottle as normal.
     
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  11. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    Mix it up. You know how wine is labeled as "Table Red?" It's a blend, because each individual wine has flaws.

    I've made beers that were too thick and too sweet. Mixed it with a Miller Lite and problem solved!

    RDWHAHB :slight_smile:
     
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  12. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Pooh-Bah (2,795) Sep 14, 2014 New York
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    What is RDWHAHB?
     
  13. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The Godfather of Homebrewing Charlie Papazian’s mantra.

    Relax Don’t Worry, Have a Home Brew!
     
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  14. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    This. Theoretic IBU and perceived bitterness are two very different things. And with all the creative ways people are hopping their beers nowadays: FWH, whirlpool additions, mash hopping, etc. it’s becoming one of the less useful brewing units.
    I used to teach homebrew classes and one of the ways I’d get people to change their understanding of IBU was to pour a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Pilsner Urquell, and Guinness and have them arrange them from most to least bitter. The answer?
    Guiness, Urquell, SNPA.
    That always blew some minds...
     
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  15. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I wish more people understood this.
     
  16. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

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    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

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  18. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Pooh-Bah (2,795) Sep 14, 2014 New York
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    So how do you measure or qualify bitterness or perceived bitterness then? For example, in a case like mine in which I accidentally added 4X the amount of hops at the beginning of the boil, what are the factors the measurable factors or variables that would make the bitterness so high as to render it undrikable?
    BTW, I find it crazy that people in your class perceived Guinness as bitter. Why do you think this happened.
     
  19. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    No tools in the homebrewers arsenal. It’s objective. Is it too bitter for you? Then it’s to bitter! Does it taste good? Then it isn’t. Unless you are competing, that’s all that matters.
    As far as the class, it was the opposite! They always ranked SNPA as the most bitter, but at 45IBU, Guinness is technically the most bitter of the three!
     
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  20. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I think IBUs (by definition) must come from hops, but bitterness can come from a variety of sources (like roasted malt).
     
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