Are all Hazy IPAs mostly the same?

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  1. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    I was fortunate last night to put Fields of Green and Obscured by Clouds up against some well regarded hazies. Both held their own, but the Culmination was the clear winner for me over Treehouse Green and Trillium DDH Fort Point.

    On another note, Riverbend canned Berry the Hopetition and Mango Fluff Yourself on 11/29. I'll wait for the canning run of the peach (my favorite and most familiar of the draft) before rendering judgement, but I'm a little surprised it took a Bend brewery this long to capitalize on the trend. I'm looking at you, Sunriver!
     
  2. Rip_City

    Rip_City Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2016 Oregon

    I've always liked obscured by clouds on draft, but when I had it in a can side by side with fields of green, the latter takes my vote. I found obscured to have just a little too much citrus juice flavor.
     
  3. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I'm cautiously welcoming of hazy IPAs, myself. I've only had about 3 or 4 of the ones brewed in NE. They were very good when fairly fresh, but I'm a longtime fan of the PNW IPA. I like that piney bitter counterpoint to the citrusy notes. Still, when I've had some local and regional hazy IPAs that are fresh and don't blur the line between beer and fruit juice too much, I have really liked some of them (looking especially at you, Perry Street).
     
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  4. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    anybody tried either of the new Hopworks Hazy IPAs they released? Staycation and Destroyah

    my buddy said Staycation is really really good
     
  5. BuckeyeOne

    BuckeyeOne Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Washington

    After more than a year of inundation of hazy IPAs around the region, I'm pretty fed up with them. Here's my request of brewers and bars/taprooms: Please label your hazy IPAs as such. I've never been to a bar that didn't label a CDA (or black IPA) as such, i.e., I've never seen a CDA simply labeled as an IPA. Why would breweries and bars then not label their hazy IPAs likewise since they're clearly a different style?

    I've now gotten to the point of asking every server, when I order an IPA that I'm not familiar with, if it's hazy. This is a drag.
     
  6. stevesbeer

    stevesbeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2016 Washington

    At least with what I have had from the Northwest, I would like them to at least try to stick to the style then. Probably 70% of what I have tried from the PNW that has been labeled as a NE Style, Vermont Style etc. have none of the same mouth feel or even opaqueness. If I can see through it and it just looks like a regular IPA that has maybe had some more hops thrown in it, that is not a NE style IPA. That seems to be a brewery by brewery thing, though. Some clearly get it, while some seem like they are just trying to use the buzz words to sell some beer without regards to what the style implies to anyone who has had a few.
     
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  7. itracy63

    itracy63 Savant (1,187) Apr 20, 2013 Washington

    Agree on the labeling. And while I wouldn’t say I’m fed up with them, I’m a little bummed that some breweries, who brewed great non-hazy IPAs, have gone almost exclusively hazy. I guess if that’s where the money’s at I’d ride that wave and cash in as well.
     
  8. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Which is why I've long advocated for calling them something other than "IPA". I personally use American Orange Ale (AOA).
     
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  9. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    Had Barley Browns Over Hopulation last night. Very very good, and not pure juice. @TankSlapper thanks for the takeover at Bier Thirty!
     
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  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Agreed. It's actually tended to make me pretty gun shy when it comes to trying new "hazy IPA's," especially if they aren't made by a brewery I recognize (or in the case of Claim 52, a brewery I recognize all too well).

    That being said, I do feel as if increasingly NW brewers are starting to "get the hang of it." Hazy IPA's I recently had from Reuben's and Skookum were both really, really good, and then breweries like Block 15 and culmination routinely seem to make pretty decent hazy style IPA's. Most of Great Notion's IPA's are pretty good as well, and Over Hopulation from Barley Brown was pretty decent (which is only what I would expect from BB). So I feel like progress is being made.

    I would add that even when I was visiting the NE last Spring, it's not as if there was a "typical style" of NE IPA. I thought there was a lot of variation, and I'm not entirely sure I understand why beers like Heady or SOS are characterized (by some at least) as NE style IPA's. I'll concede that overall quality seemed to be a bit higher back there, but then again, a lot of the brewers back East have been making hazy IPA's for a lot longer than most of the brewers out here.
     
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  11. JasonJYoung

    JasonJYoung Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2015 Washington
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    Gotta admit, it's getting really difficult to distinguish this style among many brewery's around Oregon and Washington. Some are coming off more buttery (Diacetyl) lately.

    Sorry, but a couple selections of the NE haze craze from Matchless Brewing recently were not very good.

    Huge fan of Reuben's twist on the NE Style beer, but its getting harder to distinguish their releases lately. Not a slight against Reuben's by any means.
     
  12. Jinxed

    Jinxed Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2007 Washington

    I've been a big fan of Reuben's higher ABV hazy IPAs: Haze in the Hood, Haze Maze, etc. To me, the sweeter, malty backbone of those beers provide a nice balance to the tropical notes from the hops. Without it, the flavors vanish pretty quickly for me and the beer comes off a little thin.
     
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  13. sdhopaddict

    sdhopaddict Devotee (373) Oct 9, 2016 California

    Breweries mis-labeling beers as hazy is an issue in San Diego as well. Some specifically call it hazy/juicy and then it is not creamy and thick in the way that they should be. Sometimes I have had beers labeled as murky that were not fully hazy but I can imagine someone who isn't as up on the beer trends out there would have a hard time figuring out what to buy. I have never had the opposite problem, a beer that is proper hazy not being identified as such.

    I wouldn't be opposed to giving it a new style designation. I have been suggesting that it would be a good idea for quite some time. A proper hazy (Modern Times, Monkish, Fieldwork, Tree House, Other Half, TIred Hands, Trillium, etc) is drastically different than a standard West Coast IPA. It would be nice if the super fruit puree sours were also properly labeled on the bottle like De Garde's Nectarine Premier.
     
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  14. BuckeyeOne

    BuckeyeOne Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Washington

    +1

    I never order a Cloudburst IPA anymore. That’s a bummer cuz their non-hazy IPAs of yore were top notch.
     
  15. sdhopaddict

    sdhopaddict Devotee (373) Oct 9, 2016 California

    Last time I was at Cloudburst their hazy options were barely hazy and not worth my time compared to Holy Mountain.
     
  16. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    Agreed, the higher the abv on these the better. Triple Crush has been my favorite of what I have had from Ruebens which isn't much. Haze Maze was also really good. I've thought the same thing with Revisions cans so far, all of the double ipas have been better though the new one Lord Lupilin is tasting really good.
     
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  17. switzer

    switzer Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2012 Oregon

    I am happy to see the flood of packaged hazy IPAs in the local Portland market these days. I am much more critical of the style than I was several months ago. There are some terrible beers in the style. Some of the beers I bought plenty of and thought were pretty good before have been knocked down to the “likely not to buy” list. Hopefully the good ones keep getting better due to the increased competition. Fort George and Fremont are tops for me (I think my favorite to date was the Belmont Anniversary). Revolution has some hits as well. There is still a big difference to me between the NE IPAs from Grimm, Tree House and Monkish and all the hazy offerings here. Great Notion is the only similar product. I really look forward to Great Notion 4 packs.
     
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  18. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Just as an "oh by the way," the new B15 dab lab offering (hop hash) is a pretty tasty effort. It's pretty different from the GN stuff (fair amount of bitterness in the finish), but still has a lot of that huge tropical fruit and citrus a lot of folks looks for in their NE IPA's.

    I noticed that the local NW Growler taphouse just put on a keg, if you have a mind to go give it a whirl.
     
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  19. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    the new Ex Novo is fantastic IMO. think its called "we're gonna need a bigger boat". clocks in over 8%
     
  20. sdhopaddict

    sdhopaddict Devotee (373) Oct 9, 2016 California

    Very surprised because their hazy stuff was not hazy at all when I was there recently. Though maybe I came at the wrong time. Dunstig IPA was barely NE style at all.
     
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