$100 IPAs - Yea I'm Talking to You TreeHouse.....

Some people are greedy assholes.

Some people have too much money or make poor spending decisions.

The end.

 

I mean more power to the people trying to sell them, hard to blame someone trying to make money on the perceived scarcity of this beer. It's on TH more than anything running their hype machine hard and strong. I went up there back in April and they opened early (unannounced) which agitated me then it was a "beer pours at our discretion" day which is bull and when I asked the person if they were going to do pours they were like maybe if the line gets manageable "oh wait it's pretty short" then no pours were started. I don't understand how they can not want to make as much as possible by selling pours when it seems they are all about making money. I mean the beer is good i'll give them that but between the silent releases and then how that affects the grey market is crazy. Rant over still love their beer just not the charade to get it.

 

I think the social media "I want to take a picture of me drinking a beer you can't get" brand of shitlordery has no small effect on this type of idiocy. That being said, while I certainly wouldn't spend $100 for a can of anything, but I can't begrudge anybody for the way they spend their money.

 

Nor will I begrude anyone for the way they spend their money, because that means to envy it, but I will laugh at them!

 

It’s not a grey market. It’s an illegal black market.

 

To be honest, if anyone is cost-conscious, aren't a ticker, and not a social-media *****, I think they would wait for the next batch.

Given how increasingly common these rare-beers are being brewed by Treehouse over the last...6-7 months (or is it less?), I suspect that we'll see another batch in the near future. I think Very Green is a great example of this, where people went ape shit when it was first released several months ago (first in a LONG time I believe), and then they did 1 or 2 other runs of it since then. It's my understanding that it is much easier to trade for now.

(Disclaimer: I'm not very well acquainted with Treehouse releases/schedules, just an observation combined with what I have read over the past few months. Someone may think I am full of shit, and that's fine, I have little basis for arguing that I am not.)

 

Pretty sure it's a grey market as the item being sold is not illegal to start with but maybe I'm wrong not that it seems something worthy of an argument.

 

but again selling prescription drugs is illegal, beer is not also concede that this is not worth arguing about

The grey market, also referred to as the parallel market, is a market where a product is bought and sold outside of the manufacturer's authorized trading channels

The black market is where people traffic in goods that are strictly controlled or illegal

just for context where I am coming from

 

That is a terrible argument. I've never heard of somebody arrested for possessing somebody else's beer. Nor does it have a name printed on it.

 

Not to further send this thread down the rabbit hole, but the resale of beer is a market not like many others.

Selling prescription drugs to someone without prescriptions is illegal, and you are required to be approved to sell them. Buying them without a prescription is also illegal - you don't have a right to purchase them. Selling beer requires a licence, but no licence to buy. You just have to be old enough to consume it. That's not akin to a doctor saying that you have a right to have a controlled substance.

Also, you can't give prescriptions away, but you can give alcohol away. Again, the very nature of alcohol resale is unlike other resale markets. It's more akin to buying something that is "not marked for individual resale," and then reselling it, turning a profit in the process.

People tend to use grey-market more for those transactions that are not illegal to purchase, but technically illegal to sell. E.g. Acquiring a beer not through your distributor and then selling it in your bar. Several well known accounts of Minnesota bars bringing in NG beer, reselling it, and getting in trouble.

I'm not sure it is clearly defined as black or grey, but it seems like it could be called either. What's clear is that it isn't clear.

 

There are plenty of shitlords trying to sell juice machine and the other triples from this week's release for obscene amounts of money OR are trying to trade a bundle along with a few rotationals for big stouts from TG or Wake or whoever. BUT, there are people out there trading JM at cost. I'm sending a Fuzzy to a guy for a JM, Aaalterrr and rotations to meet Fuzzy's $4$ cost. So, those people are out there.

 

not to be an instigator but I have already conceded that I may not be right just having the discussion, you seem very concerned about being right so - yes it is 100% a black super illegal and seedy market akin to selling guns and babies where anyone selling beer/guns/babies at anything above retail should be strung up in the county square or at the least put in the stockades

 

Finally, someone with a reasonable solution.

 

maybe that was a bit much but I mean you have to admit if it was as outright illegal that you are making it out to be there would not be so many sites where you can sign up in a matter of minutes and buy beer or other items at will if you are willing to spend a little extra. Now while I agree that it is unfortunate that people are trying to sell certain beers at such exorbitant mark-ups it really boils down to supply and demand which is that base to almost all commerce. Also not to forget how easy it is for none of that to affect your life in the slightest since someone selling Juice Machine cans for $100.00 doesn't affect your ability in the slightest to go the brewery and buy a can for the 5 or so dollars they charge. Cheers