Possible bad trader?: (resolved) @TheIPAHunter

Hope all is well, truly, but it comes off to me like a "woe is me" approach. I've been laid out a few times and never had the energy, nor the will, to lash out at others in the midst of it, nor during the recovery period.

How can you exercise patience when you're completely unaware of the situation? And it's another level to be berated as if you're an inconsiderate jerk for not knowing about said situation

Everything here is on @TheIPAHunter as far as I'm concerned. A simple response could have been, "you know what, sorry, I was laid up in bed, had no access to comms...etc. Will make it right." A simple, short message and a bit of common understanding could have avoided this whole mess.

 

Wow, I am surprised that this happened. And I follow BA pretty closely and I had no idea that he was ill.

Sounds like you were extremely patient and kind in your attempts to get responses from someone who owes you, basically, almost 100.00. I wonder if he paid his mortgage and utilities, or if he got upset at them and expected them to forgive the debt? I wonder if he contacted them to say he was surprised they didn't know he was ill, and to stop being pompous wondering when they'd get paid?

That said, it also doesn't sound like you are gonna get your beer. Short of sending a label and asking to have the girlfriend ship your beer back to you (I mean it must still be in the box, right, since he can't drink and his girlfriend I'm sure didn't drink it). It won't be fresh, but I think that, or forgetting about it, are all the options you have

 

That’s a tough one. From your conversation I’d say you were completely reasonable and not anywhere close to pompous. It sucks that @TheIPAHunter has run into some possibly serious health issues, but barreling back into the conversation with his guard up, acting like a dick was absolutely the wrong move.

Digging deeper, he posted on 5/22 saying that he’d ship the next day. On 5/23 he posted on BA that he was drinking that evening, so clearly health was ok around sunset to be drinking, but the box had not been shipped as promised.

Odds are he was probably planning to ship the following day, and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he may have been admitted that night or 5/24. But without communication there was no way for you to know that, and threatening a Bad Trader thread was not out of line, after 2 weeks of radio silence after the agreed upon ship date.

Hope you get your $ back, or the beer you’re owed, and not just the offer to ship your now 1.5 month old beer back to you.

 

Some classic bad trader behavior here, attacking the person who called them out.

 

Add to that the other classic behavior of no reply for weeks, until threat of a bad trader thread, then all of a sudden the terrible situation, that was so bad even a short reply couldn't be sent, suddenly, magically ends.

 

I don’t think you were out of line here in any way. You gave him the opportunity to make it right and he went radio silent again. A little communication goes a long way.

 

Man! We went 2 months without one of these posts. Was bummed to see one pop up.

You responded to the situation far better than I would have, OP. Bummed to hear you’re out the beers... I definitely hope the health problems @TheIPAHunter is experiencing turn out ok but the defensiveness was uncalled for when he finally did respond.

 

This times a million. The threat of calling out someone as a bad trader is the biggest internet cure-all since apple cider vinegar.

 

My wife isn't on BA and doesn't drink beer but I'm going to try this and see if it helps her health problems. Will report back.

 

Okay, just want to point out that this was second trade, and with a guy with a big BA presence and rep. OP still made it an official trade through the system, and it is worth noting how much of a great idea that was.

Also, through my own unfortunate experience of being wrongly accused, and others' that have happened to other people over the years, I think it is fair to say that someone who feels they are wrongly accused can't wait to tell their side of it.

And here is the BT's response, broken down:

I'm happy to hear you've done so many trades.

Sarcastic tone right from the start

I understand what it's like to have family members that are ill. That said, have you ever been sick? Like really sick? I hope someone will exercise a certain degree of patience with you should that ever interrupt your daily actions.

Plea for understanding and a demand for patience for a situation OP had no knowledge of, due to the BT purposely kept him uninformed about it.

I'm going to be honest man, you are coming off like a pompous individual.

On the offense, a sure sign that BT recognizes he has no defense.

I believe you're better than that. Why don't you just shit on my reputation and get it over with?

More offense, a pathetic attempt to make OP feel like he is the one doing wrong.

Cheers. As far as communication goes, it's kinda hard when you're hooked up to tubes. FYI, I haven't touched your beers or any beers for that matter. I can't.

Translation: have pity on me, it is hard to communicate since I am all hooked up to medical devices. That is why I am sending this long message, instead of the one I could have and should have sent-: "Sorry. Very ill. I fucked up, shoulda had gf BM you. Hard to write. Will make good when/if I can."
TheIPAHunter, Jun 7, 2018

I like Hunter, and I hope he gets better soon. I add this harsh post as a lesson to us all.

 

I'm going to take a cue from my fellow FIB @FBarber. Does anyone out there actually know @TheIPAHunter in the real world? There are many valid points here on how people have dissected his behavior and I agree with most if not all. However, I'll remind everyone that there was a bad trader thread not that long ago where the Ba actually did have a very life altering situation and was unable to respond and follow through and never would again from the sounds of it. Does anyone know him that can reach out? Just my 2 cents. Sorry you're out the beer OP. If I had access to

 

Apparently I can't edit posts here... if I had access to Tired Hands I'd help make it right OP.

 

@dmbforever might have to tag, not a great response from the BT in question

 

Probably because he was well enough to pop on WBAYDN and let people know that he had a brief illness but was back to being large but didn't bother to try and make things right.
But I'm just guessing

 

As another interested party just wanted to chime in. Agree with Dave's points above but with health issues we all know shit.
C'mon Mr Laarge we are pulling for you, pretty sure I'm not alone here.