November 2018 Cellar Reviews

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Beersnake, Nov 1, 2018.

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  1. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2012 Trois Pistoles by Unibroue. Noticeably less head. Nose is plums, figs, toffee. A real treat. Taste is almost port like. WAY less carbonation as when fresh. Totally different beer, in my opinion. Lots of dark fruit, caramel. Less yeast. The flavor actually got a bit odd as it warmed a bit. The oxidation really came through at this point. A bit of soy sauce as well. Overall, this should be consumed before 6 years.

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  2. strohme2

    strohme2 Pooh-Bah (2,001) Nov 3, 2007 Michigan
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    Bottled 09/26/16 this is Short’s Black Cherry Porter. It’s been one of my favorites from Short’s, not bottled in 2017 or ‘18 (yet?).
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    Pours a generous black with finely bubbled bead of flat tan. Leaves a good amount of lacing. Tart cherry and pits, leather and tobacco, some ash on the nose. Tart cherry first leads to ash, a bit of roast, and smoke. Bitter chocolate when I breathe out. Smoothly carbonated, lingering tart cherry. I think I like it better with less age but still drinking very nice. Hope it makes it into a bottle for 2019.
     
  3. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    North Coast Old Stock Ale 2013 Cellar Reserve Aged in Bourbon Barrels

    Revisiting this bad boy plus another year. Poured into a DFH tulip, the carbonation is greatly reduced with a very small head over a light mahogany body. It doesn't taste flat though. It still smells and tastes great, with maybe more molasses and dark fruit coming forward while the booze and barrel are still there although diminished to a more reasonable level. Maybe I've been spoiled since the last time I've had this but the mouthfeel is less substantial than what I was expecting. There's a local bottle shop with a 2012 for sale; I'm not sure how much they're charging but I'm guessing it's more than I want to pay. I've got 3 non barrel aged from 2012 in my cellar, and lots of subsequent years, so I'll probably stick with those. But that doesn't take away from this being a great experience.
     
  4. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    Getting into a 2011 DFH olde school BW which was generously gifted to me, with other vintage BW, by @Ahonky.

    Very smooth at this point with little to no fusel alcohol characteristics remaining. Feel is perfect for style, carbonation is low but still lively enough to give this a surprisingly deft and nimble feel on the tongue. Medium body falling just a hair on the lighter side, which also helps drinkability. A few chunky floaties here and there. Not the deepest flavor, but extremely enjoyable, bringing raisin, date, brown sugar and a hint of bitter hops just barely perceptible in the finish. Worlds away from fresher bottles, definitely the kind of beer to grab a bunch of and forget for a looong time.

    I enjoyed this one a lot. Not the deepest most profound barleywine you'll come across but a perfect cellar candidate. Feels like this could have gone a decade without a problem, easily.
     
  5. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Fyodor's Classic from Stone. This is from 2014 and has been at cellar temp since it was released. I absolutely loved this beer fresh. Nose is bourbon, chocolate, licorice, and roasted malts. Taste is incredible. Still amazing - tons of bourbon, chocolate, coffee, brown sugar, roasted malts, toffee, and black licorice. This has aged beautifully.

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  6. darktronica

    darktronica Grand Pooh-Bah (3,272) Aug 29, 2014 Indiana
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    Drinking a Deschutes Black Butte XXVI from 2014 that was a random find in cold storage at a shop in Michiana. Very little oxidation evident, only a slight hint of cardboard on the early palate. Still pours as I remember it fresh, with a full finger of head on a dark brown but translucent body. The pomegranate molasses and cranberry are still also pretty evident, which was a pleasant surprise to me. The nibs and vanilla, less so. Not much barrel or bourbon character, either. All in all, though, still very nicely balanced after four years.
     
  7. toolbrew

    toolbrew Pooh-Bah (1,600) Feb 26, 2008 Indiana
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    2016 Surly Darkness - 09/09/16

    Waxed bottle with cerberus label. Poured into a snifter. Thick tan head to start, faded into slight ring with residual lacing. Roast malt aromas. Great roasty sweet chocolatey taste and slightly bitter finish. Great mouthfeel - not overly thick, and certainly not thin. This is an incredible stout and holding up remarkably well after two years. Would definitely seek this out - still a classic!
     
  8. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Adam batch 80 from 2010. Pours a nice dark brown with a good amount of tan head. Nose is really nice. Smooth, nutty, cherries, nutmeg. Taste is much better than the nose. Huge burst of toffee, leather, tree sap, cherries, wood, smoke, maple. Really nice mouthfeel. This is just a great beer to age, and I will save my other 2 from this batch for a few more years.

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  9. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 Bell's Third Coast Old Ale

    4.02/5 rDev -2.2%
    look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

    Poured from a 12 ounce bottled on 10/11/2017 into a DFH tulip. Small head over a cherry mahogany body which dissipated quickly with little lacing. Smell got much more pronounced as it warmed up since I started this in a very cold attic before moving to a warmer setting. Smell was of nicely sweet fruit with a slight, not overpowering, booze tinge. Taste was more hoppy than the smell but it in no way detracted from the sweet flavors. Absolutely no alcohol burn. Mouthfeel was fine albeit slightly thin.

    Overall this was a bit of a letdown because my hopes maybe were higher than was reasonable. Then again, maybe additional aging will get this to the point I wanted it to be since this is still young. Will revisit this in a year.
     
  10. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2013 Consecration. At 5 years, this is fantastic. Pours a nice dark brown with head that almost instantaneously disappears. Nose is incredible. Funk, citrus, sour, leather, and dark fruit. Taste is mouth puckering. What a beauty. Smoother than fresh. Doesn't have the edge, but nice and tart and sour. Cherries, grapes, bark, leather, barnyard funk, saddle, and a touch of citrus peel. Really great.

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  11. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2013 Bois aged in new French oak barrels. Poured from fridge temp, but allowed to warm. This is now 5 years old. Almost no head retention. Pours a super dark brown - almost black. Huge amount of toffee on the nose. A lot of oak and dark fruit coming through. Mostly blackberries. A touch of vanilla and spice coming through. Taste is absolutely incredible. I'm getting some interesting tobacco notes right from the start. A smoky taste is right there as well. The toffee is dominant, and I would say the dark fruit is a bit less dominant compared to the nose. That said, cherries and blackberries come through. A touch of spice, charred oak, raisin, Belgian yeast, and bourbon. Mouthfeel is thick and chewy. Overall, this is phenomenal, especially at 5 years. I never tried it fresh, so I have no comparison. However, I had plenty of regular Bois fresh and aged, and this is right there.

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  12. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    Dogfish Head Oak Aged Siracusa Nera 10/11/2017

    The positive changes I noted on 7/7 continue in place: there has been no reduction in the carbonation when poured into a DFH tulip. Smell was still lacking for a big stout just after the pour after being stored at 50 degrees, but as it warmed up I got a nice wine aroma over the stout malts. The taste is still not at the level of the top tier RISs but it seems like a typical DFH experiment, which is not meant as a slam because imo they do things with a lot of integrity. I still don't detect much barrel per se so I guess the wine smell and taste is what it is. Mouthfeel is fine for this sipper. I still have one left that I'll crack open at some point in the future because there's been no deterioration that I can detect.
     
  13. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2013 Barleywine. Poured from cellar temp (about 52 degrees). This is amazing when it's not freezing cold. Taste and nose is overwhelming caramel. Nose also has some nice malts, vanilla, candy, and dark fruit (cherries). Taste is bourbon, dark fruit, a touch of lactose, sweet malts, and toffee. Amazing.

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    AirBob Pooh-Bah (1,742) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Had my last bottle of '13 in September. One of my favorites of all time and consistently excellent through out the last 5 years - really enjoyable aging experience.
     
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  15. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2014 Bourbon County. Still have a few bottles of '14, so I figured I should start clearing out in anticipation of the upcoming release. Poured from fridge temp. Not much head on this one. Nose has a great amount of bourbon, lots of black licorice, roasted malts, a touch of coffee, and some toffee. The dark fruits (cherries and blackberries) come through as well. The taste has a slight bitterness - but still rich with dark chocolate, bourbon, roast, vanilla, toffee, cherries, licorice, and smoke. To be honest, I am preferring the '13 right now.

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  16. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2014 Americano Stout: Stone Brewing Co.

    4.34/5 rDev +5.1%
    look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

    This 10/16/2014 bottle was a gift from a friend who relocated and had to empty her beer fridge; lucky me! Since I'm not aware of what this tastes like fresh, I'm guessing that it was hoppier fresh but that's the extent of my assumptions.

    Poured into a DFH tulip, it's a black body with a finger sized tan head. Even straight from a 50 degree fridge the coffee smell dominates everything. As it warms you get chocolate and vanilla and even a boozy aroma. The taste is flat out coffee with some stout malt char. Mouthfeel is very creamy and pleasant. For a not big alc stout this was a very positive experience. Even though I don't know what this tasted like fresh there's no sign that four years has had any obvious negative impact. Based on my grade compared to the average, maybe aging has been positive.
     
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  17. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 Founders KBS

    Poured in an Abbey long stemmed tulip. I think this is very balanced now and am thinking of gradually finishing the 2017s between now and late spring 2019 to ward off any off tastes or the barrel tastes disappearing and it becoming something less pleasing than it currently is. Then again, further aging might do something unexpectedly pleasant.

    Help me out, guys; what do you recommend?
     
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  18. strohme2

    strohme2 Pooh-Bah (2,001) Nov 3, 2007 Michigan
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    If ya can’t see it, that’s Expedition bottled 7/26/13. I love this beer with at least a year on it to mellow out some of the heat and bitterness. At just over 5 years here, not sure what to expect but hoping for great things.
    Poured into tulip at 40 or so degrees, letting it warm up to cellar temp.
    Just as fresh, pours a thick black. Here just a minimal head of mocha foam. Molasses, baker’s chocolate, black licorice nose.
    Rich bittersweet chocolate, decent amount of roast, charred marshmallow (mostly char, not so much ‘mallow). Still has that velvety smooth mouthfeel that I love. Low carbonated which is where it needs to be. Turned out to be a great bottle. That said, I have a 2010 bottle that I’ll open in 2020. Really optimistic on that one now.
     
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  19. strohme2

    strohme2 Pooh-Bah (2,001) Nov 3, 2007 Michigan
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    As I remember 2017 was really coffee heavy. IMO, fresh was best for that one, although I have 8 or so left too that I’ve been slowly drinking. The oldest KBS I’ve had was 5 years old. At that point, for me, it’s a completely different beer but still one that is enjoyable and not a failed experiment. Only one way to find out for your personal tastes!
     
  20. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    AVBC Huge Arker (2014 or 2015)
    **Note: Just saw this thread, and I drank this last week during my weekly beer & cigars hangout. There never was a date on the bottle, but I know I've been sitting on this bottle somewhere between 3-4 years at this point.**
    Carbonation has dropped of quite a bit and while there is still a hint of the bourbon, it has fallen off significantly compared to the 2 year old bottle I had 18 months ago. More of the oak has come out and given it a slight bit more vanilla, which was nice, but the beer also lost some body/mouthfeel. 4.0/5.0 for this bottle, whereas the fresh to 2 year old bottles I would still give a 4.75/5.0
     
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