Is Pabst and Hamm's the same beer?

Ha, 4.74 is exactly 0.14, or + 0.3% more than 4.6.

Interesting.

 

Looks like MC's current stats for Hamm's puts it at 4.7%

 

What kind of recipe tweak would appeal to hipsters and craft drinkers? I guess it must be repackaged PBR after all. (and it seems like it's working)

 

These two are very different, Hamm's is sweeter while Pabst reminds me of bud light gone skunked.

 

Hamm's was at Harris-Teeter Friendly Ave. last week at $11.99 a case. To my senses PBR and Hamm's are not the same beer.

 

Maybe @miwestcoaster and @mambossa will be willing to conduct some blind taste testing (including a blind triangle taste test) and report back to us?

Conducting this taste test on non-cold beers as per Patrik's (@Crusader) post would be helpful.

Cheers!

Edit: Another important consideration is that the two beers should be approximately of the same age. They do not need to be brewed on the exact same day but drinking one beer that is 1 month old vs. the second beer being 4 months old may result in a differing flavor profile due to staling aspects.

@FBarber

 

"Mo' Hops" ?

In the case of Hamm's, that'd probably only mean enough hop extract to reach the level at which humans can detect it?

 

Woo-Hoo! We have one volunteer to conduct a blind taste test.

I look forward to reading your findings.

Cheers!

 

I will do a blind test as well, maybe adding Old Milwaukee to the mix. I will attempt to ID the brewery location. The last time I checked the Hamm’s cans, it came from Trenton, NJ. The code on the bottom of the can gives the brewery. If you know what the code means, and I have to find that info again.

 

That's Trenton, OHIO.

In 2010, they claimed the brewery produced beer under 67(!) different labels, with Pabst's brands accounted for about 15% of the total barrelage. With the closure of Eden, NC might be even more these days (altho' the Coors built "Shenandoah" brewery in Virginia supposedly picked up a lot of that production, too.)

2nd and 3rd digits of the second line of the MC code.

 

My best guess is different people respond to different labels and marketing so they can capture a wider audience. Recipes are probably slightly tweaked as well.

 

My comment of "...why would they bother?" was in response to AlcahueteJ's suggestion that they may have "fudged" the ABV claim of Pabst Blue Ribbon, not why they bother to market their 3 dozen or so current labels (supposedly they own the rights to around 75 IIRC).

The few webpages that Pabst has for their many brands that are active* and that do list specific ingredients sometimes have different hop schedules, while many are very vague, such as
"Schaefer accentuates its total complexity with six varieties of hops..." or "Pabst Blue Ribbon ...a unique combination of Pacific domestic hops blended with an imported Yugoslavian variety..."

* A number of them currently have this image after you agree you're 21:

 

Neither beer is one I would normally buy unless I needed something to cook brats in or steam a chicken with.

 

They are likely referring to hops grown in Slovenia (formerly of Yugoslavia). My guess would be Styrian Golding hops.

There was an interesting article on the topic of hops from Slovenia in BA:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/articl...ng-nobility-hops-from-the-styrian-hinterland/

Cheers!

 

Well, whadaya expect? The Pabst Brewing Co. only lasted about a decade longer, closing their last breweries (Allentown, PA and San Antonio, TX) in 2001. Maybe they had a lot of Yugo hop extract in storage and, given their ever decreasing barrelage, haven't run out yet?

(Ha, didn't even notice that - that'll happen with copy/paste - why read it, too?

And here I used to make fun of a once [80s-90s] great beer bar in New Jersey, The Old Bay [now-defunct], which as late as 2008 still had this description in their beer menu:

"Pilsner Urquell - $3.25/$4.50
The original Pilsner style beer brewed in Czechoslovakia since 1842, golden colored, with the rich bouquet of Zatec hops which gave the bitterness needed to balance the soft malt body. Czechoslovakia's is like the dark horse of the brewing industry. I mean, the first pilsner ever! Who would have thought? Tell you what, I don't know about you, but I'm going to be keeping an eye on the Czechoslovakians. It's like one day you're like, "What's Czechoslovakia?" and the next day you're saying, "Damn, those Czechoslovakians! They're so wise."

 

Yup.

Geography used to be so easy back in the 'old days'. Maybe all this change is a conspiracy started by the globe and map manufacturers!?!

Cheers!