Potential Bad Trader: @dabrees

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Slack, Apr 10, 2019.

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  1. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Thanks for doing this. At this point I had planned to ask @Todd to go forward with banning him, but it can't hurt to hear what recent traders have to say about their recent experiences with the BT first.
     
  2. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    And something needs to be done to feedback system, this guy was high risk, OP get screwed out of beer, the feedback system failed him.
     
  3. Peterock27

    Peterock27 Zealot (708) Oct 4, 2016 New York
    Trader

    First off want to say sorry to @Slack for going through this. Sounds really frustrating.

    I recall seeing @dabrees mentioned in another BT forum last year and after reading this thread will chime in with my encounter with him. Glad it never materialized!

    Last year dabrees posted a FT post with some prairie bottles. I sent a message to him and offered two beers he listed as ISO. I then received a message back saying that he would do it only if I sent him $13 for each bottle plus shipping labels and $1-2 extra for shipping supplies...and that he really wasn’t interested in the two beers I offered even though they were listed in his ISO. He also mentioned that shipping to NY was expensive as another excuse as to why he didn’t want to trade.

    As a pretty experienced trader on this site, I just replied “forget about it” and I moved on. I made a mental note that this was likely a shady trader and never looked back.

    Just felt like sharing this story given the current state of what’s happening. First off, trading rules on this site bar the sale of beer for $. Also if he was truly intending to make a trade, he should realize what he is signing up for as there is an inherent cost associated with trading (shipping costs and shipping supplies).

    PS - looks like dabrees signed in to this site about 2 hours ago after his month absence.
     
  4. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    It’s too bad there’s no way of knowing if this a-hole is back on BA with a different user name.
     
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  5. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Pretty certain mods can check this out in some capacity based on IP address IIRC.
     
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  6. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I hope so. And I do understand the lack of transparency on the issue, not wanting to give the banned users an opportunity to figure out how they can get around the barriers in place.
     
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  7. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Sounds like the ultimate ****.

    In all possible ways.

    Insta-ban IP and any other conceivable way.

    Draw and quarter his ass while we're at it.
     
  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    @dabrees. I see you logged on a few hours back, so you must be aware of this thread. It would be nice to have you come on here and explain your side of the story... If you have one. Pretty hard not to draw a lot of pretty negative inferences about your behavior at this point.
     
  9. Slack

    Slack Pooh-Bah (2,018) Feb 14, 2012 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    All, I recieved a response to my email and a FedEx tracking number. I notified @dabrees of this thread and encouraged him to respond.
     
  10. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    OP, please leave bad feedback, last time @dabrees pulled this garbage he ended up with a feedback score of 100%.

    People on this site get banned all the time for making snarky comments in threads, this guy still on here in spite of terrible trading behavior. In spite of apparently beer being sent, this guy needs to be banned.
     
  11. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Unless he uses a VPN...
     
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  12. MattOC

    MattOC Pooh-Bah (2,100) Jan 13, 2013 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Slack thanks for the update. You have been beyond patient and reasonable throughout this. That said, please leave appropriate feedback. Which, in my opinion, should be bad.

    Sure, he finally got back to your email - after how long, and has provided a tracking number, but I hope he doesn't think that gets him off the hook. However, given how his replies started off in the last bad trader thread I would suspect that he thinks he's fulfilled his end. I'll be very curious how the box turns out given all the changes to what was the original trade was.

    Again, we all hope he was okay during his absence, but I do hope he comes to this thread and responds appropriately.

    Thanks again for handling it like an absolute pro.
     
  13. Rick91981

    Rick91981 Initiate (148) Aug 21, 2018 New York


    Only problem with this is most users are on a dynamic IP so it can and will change. If they block his IP all he has to do is either use a VPN as @Snowcrash000 suggested, or even simply unplug his modem/router for 30 mins and then reconnect it. Their ISP will issue them a fresh new IP address and they'd be right back on the site.

    And while the chance isn't high, it's possible that another BA user in the area with the same ISP would pull that banned IP from the DHCP pool and not be able to access the site.
     
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  14. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Within your negative feedback, after you say your piece, I'd put something like, "Search user in BT thread before trading." Something along those lines to direct people to these threads. Multiple.
     
  15. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    BA needs to add a separate field to the feedback where people can add the link to bad trader thread. Or expand length of feedback field
     
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  16. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Slack, any idea what the ETA is for the box?

    @John_M whats the plan for this trader moving forward? Multiple bad trader threads - seemingly blowing this most recent one off ... is he going to get the boot? Or at least can he get his trading privileges revoked?
     
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  17. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    OP does us all a favor and leave bad feedback, even if you get your beer.
     
  18. 7irondave

    7irondave Pooh-Bah (1,918) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Slack , if the tracking # he gave you comes with more excuses and no box let us know.

    I have a couple bottles to help you recoup some of the $ you are short. They aren't the bottles involved in your trade but pretty good none the less. I'm sure there are others here that would also chip in a bottle or two to help out a fellow BA.
     
  19. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
    Pooh-Bah Trader



    I've traded with @Slack in the past, I'd be more than happy to send a box.
     
  20. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    No matter what the outcome (and I'm hoping for the best), my plan is to run this by @Todd and get his take. I'll likely present the case for why I think banishment is appropriate, but in the end, it's his call to make.
     
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