Has Brut IPA already died...

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Retroman40, Jun 13, 2019.

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  1. Retroman40

    Retroman40 Savant (1,098) Dec 7, 2013 Florida

    ...or at least faded into obscurity? It seems that back around the beginning of the year they were popping up everywhere. They were even featured in Zymurgy Magazine. Now - crickets. At my store we recently "dumped" SN Brut Zero (marked down to 7.99 for a 12 pack - believe me you can make ANY beer move if you drop the price enough) and yesterday we put Abita Stratosbeer out at 3.99 for a 6 pack (and it'll be gone quickly too). My favorite local place brewed it once but never again. Is there even any interest in this style anymore? I kind of like them myself but if they die I can always brew it myself (the Zymurgy Magazine article had a couple good recipes and I've already made it once).
     
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  2. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I wasn't aware it was ever alive.
     
  3. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Do we bury dead styles? Or annul them, like they never happened?
     
  4. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Judging by what IPA's are coming through most of the local breweries here, which is retro childhood without the fake id. Brut IPAs got drowned out for shelf space by brightly colored double dry hopped lactose infused opaque whimsy.
     
  5. hoagzzz

    hoagzzz Zealot (682) Feb 28, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Had exactly one in my life, enjoy by 1/01/19 Brut. The brut aspect muted what I like about that beer.. seems silly to me.
     
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  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I’m seeing a lot more Lagers and Pils, not so much with Brut and NE IPAs, they seem to have slowed down a lot.
     
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  7. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Brut IPA’s...they aren’t horrible, they just aren’t as good.
     
  8. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Spot on. They just need to start adding lacotose to Brut IPA, put them on Four packs of 16oz cans and charge $20 for them.
     
  9. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I did enjoy all 3 that I drank but looking at the shelves here very few others did.
     
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  10. woodychandler

    woodychandler Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,184) Apr 9, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    If so, I will apparently be among the few mourning their passing. I liked both them & their spicy CANterparts, White IPAs, but I always seem to be on the wrong side of history.

    On the other hand, I rejoiced when the Black/Cascadian IPA style finally went out of vogue since I always felt like the roasted malts either got in the way of or simply trampled over the all-important hops.
     
  11. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I don't think it became a thing for folks. My one local guy still makes their series but it is not flying out the door at all. My guess is its coming to an end.
    Cheers
     
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  12. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Craft Beer Prime Directive: look elsewhere for finesse and subtlety :wink:.
     
  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    We bury our dead and annul our marriages.
     
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  14. ypsifly

    ypsifly Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2004 Michigan

    At my store we gave the style a Viking Funeral. I loaded up a shopping cart with the Bruts we had left on the shelf and wrapped the whole thing in pine tar soaked linens then lit it on fire. I then had one of the stock boys ghost sail it across the parking lot while blowing on a rams horn and shouting "Beware Valhalla! A fallen style is entering the Hall of Heroes!"

    Personally I'm neutral on the style. I can take it or leave it but the curiosity phase is over for most folks and it is reflected in declining sales.
     
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  15. jimmyfishkin

    jimmyfishkin Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2008 Wisconsin

    I've had exactly 1, and it was on accident. Ordered a Sam Pain IPA from Country Boy brewing at Mellow Mushroom when I was in Kentucky last summer. It wasn't bad, but there was no indication of it being a Brut IPA on the menu, and I looked it up because the taste was a bit different. That was the first I ever heard of the style.

    I don't care that they are out there, much like Lactose IPA's and other styles I don't care for; I just choose not to buy them.
     
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  16. Jimbob-gbr

    Jimbob-gbr Aspirant (274) Apr 18, 2017 Nebraska
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    They didn't ever have much for brut around here but a local brewery does a hibiscus brut ipa as a regular beer and it is delicious. One of my favorites by them and a few people I know like it a lot as well
     
  17. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    They should have little graveyards for retired/dead flavors at breweries... like Ben + Jerrys does.

    I'm still seeing Brut IPAs come into Total Wine. IMO Brut IPA should be like a "year end" IPA because it reminds me of champagne (New Years). Seeing them at summer is weird to me.
     
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  18. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I like them better than stuff that tastes like a glass of fresh squeezed orange juice and buy them when I see them.
     
  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I like them. My area supports a lot of different styles and I hope this one stays part of the local rotations.
     
  20. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    I actually was thinking based on my last few visits to bottle shops that it's surprising just how many Brut IPAs are on the shelves given how little enthusiasm I've seen for the substyle. However, I wouldn't be surprised if those are a bunch of 2018 bottlings/cannings that are lingering around.

    Brut IPAs typically are low in bitterness and utilize juicy hops expressions, but they're technically very dry (although the juicy hops can make them read as pseudo-sweet). The apparent commercial failure of Brut IPAs suggests to me that 1) the sweetness from the residual sugars, not the hops effects, is the single biggest driver of the popularity of NEIPAs (as Brut IPAs typically share the hops flavors or lack thereof with NEIPAs) and 2) people looking for alternatives to NEIPAs don't necessarily want juicy hops with low bitterness. "Enjoyed by neither NEIPA fans nor NEIPA haters" is an unfortunate niche for an IPA in the market.
     
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