Do Stone Enjoy By batches vary?

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  1. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    Gonna pop a top on my first Enjoy By tomorrow because quite frankly, I love the cans and the Enjoy By date of 7/4/19. Usually its been a bit too pricey for my blood.

    So my question is, for those who have had many different batches of Enjoy By, have you seen any variance between the batches or are they pretty consistent?

    Will my Enjoy By 7/4/19 taste any different than previous batches?

    Thanks.
     
  2. hopsputin

    hopsputin Grand Pooh-Bah (4,403) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
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    hmmm. I popped a 7/4 last night. My last tasting notes on Enjoy By were from October 2013. To my taste, it seems like last night had a bit more of a tropical fruitiness too it and a touch more sweetness than my previous notes. That distinctive Stone yeast note wasn't extremely prevalent in the 7/4 to me either. I really really enjoyed the 7/4.
     
  3. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    They do vary and if you check out the enjoy by thread under the news and releases section you will see that there appears to be variation between the two breweries and possibly between batches from the same brewery
     
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  4. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    I will do this!
     
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  5. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    According to Mitch Steele via BeerSmith podcast the recipe doesn’t vary. Well maybe ever slightly based on hops. If it does vary that’s just natural batch variation being a seasonal.

    Mitch said Enjoy by used Nelson hops in the beginning but learned it would be too hard to consistently get enough Nelson hops to use it. Switched up the hop recipe to a combination that Stone could get regularly and be able to add more of one hop if needed due to supply. However, he said it’s 99% the same batch to batch. Mitch is gone so things could have changed and reformulated based on the industry trend, i.e. unfiltered.
     
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  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Even if the recipe doesn’t change I’m quite sure the quality of the hops and it’s variations makes any batch unique, especially so in these big boy beers. Have to say I don’t mind minor variations I come to expect them to a degree, which makes Bells Two Hearted even more miraculous, it never ever seems to change.
     
  7. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    They seem to be pretty radically different from batch to batch, I remember specifically when they put out a Brut IPA variation because I knew I wasn't going to pick that up in a million years :grin: But Enjoy by 7/4 is fantastic, or should I say "was" because it's now the 5th :wink:
     
  8. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    They do release special versions of Enjoy By, such as Brut, Unfiltered, Tangerine, Black, Chocolate & Coffee, etc. These each have their own entry for review in the BA database.

    The batch variation described above is from batch-to-batch with the regular Stone Enjoy By releases. Those releases vary only from a standpoint of batch consistency, and very minor tweaks over the life of the recipe (as @GetMeAnIPA described, above).

    For the regular releases, our own individual palates are far more likely to provide different experiences between different iterations, than any batch variation - unless one were to, say, compare one of the earliest releases against one of the latest releases (which isn't possible side by side).

    Cheers!
     
  9. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Makes sense, explains why I only notice the special versions along with the 4/20 and 7/4 releases :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
     
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  10. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Wonder if it’s know that the batches vary if they would consider using something like a single hop variation unique to that release. It might be interesting to have releases using Chinook, Mosaic, Amarillo etc. It might take the pressure off sourcing hops in enough volume to do a run as well as to really change it up.
     
  11. ColoradoPhil

    ColoradoPhil Devotee (330) Feb 2, 2015 Colorado

    [Absolutely. Enjoy by I had vouple years back was close to world class. The revent 7/4/29 batch had a cool U.S. flag can, and a terriblw boozy taste. Worst beer I have wvwr had all year, and worst Stone beer. I love Stone brews. But paying $18.00 for a six pack of this terrible recent batch has put me off gettng "Enjoy" by again. I drank one, and not any other of this six pack.

    QUOTE="Longhorn08, post: 6553272, member: 780066"]Gonna pop a top on my first Enjoy By tomorrow because quite frankly, I love the cans and the Enjoy By date of 7/4/19. Usually its been a bit too pricey for my blood.

    So my question is, for those who have had many different batches of Enjoy By, have you seen any variance between the batches or are they pretty consistent?

    Will my Enjoy By 7/4/19 taste any different than previous batches?

    Thanks.[/QUOTE]
     
  12. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    But with this one being "Unfiltered" why wouldn't it fall under the specialty category as another variant? Were they always unfiltered?
     
  13. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Enjoy By does get its own entry.

    Enjoy By:
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/84596/

    Enjoy By Unfiltered:
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/202078/

    If you're suggesting that the 07/04/19 batch is also unfiltered, then I don't have an answer for you. The only Enjoy By series that would fall under the Unfiltered entry for reviewing purposes would be iterations which clearly identify themselves as such - as in, "Hey Stone drinkers, this here is a different beer than the regular Enjoy By!"

    To the best of my knowledge, no, this series is not normally unfiltered.
     
  14. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    [​IMG]Not so much a suggestion as whats on the can.
     
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  15. Ronmarley1

    Ronmarley1 Savant (1,187) Jan 20, 2014 Ohio
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    I agree, it is not normally unfiltered. According to the can, this iteration was unfiltered.

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    Edit: oops! Too slow.
     
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  16. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Then reviewers should log it on the Unfiltered version. It already exists. If people review the wrong beer, there isn't much I can do about that. :grinning:

    (And if it doesn't show, we didn't get this Enjoy By release. :slight_frown: )

    FWIW, I didn't notice much difference between the two - and neither did many other BAs when it came out. I'm not saying there is no difference, just that whatever it is, our own palates likely account for more variation.
     
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  17. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Yea I didn't realize until I went to the site and saw ALL the previous years Enjoy Bys that they had been doing unfiltered ones for such a long time. I thought (much like unfiltered Ruination 2.0) that it was a sign of the times and possibly new. I was very wrong.
     
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  18. mogulskier

    mogulskier Zealot (690) Feb 3, 2019 California

    Stone may not say it changes, but after drinking them for years, yes their are detectable differences, some for the better, but some for the worst. I don't buy Stone Enjoy By much anymore, because other breweries are making excellent West Coast DIPAs that are better. I will say though that the first "unfiltered" ones were really good.
     
  19. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    Agreed the first 2 batches where you could only get growler fills were top notch now it's like getting ballast point beer. Not that Stone was ever that impressive to begin with, its a good gateway beer.
     
  20. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Sounds like a common theme around here. First release, limited supply = the best variations.
     
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