Toppling Goliath collaboration with Binny's Beverage Depot

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  1. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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  2. Lorddevn

    Lorddevn Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2019 Wisconsin
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    You forgot the kick ass name. Barrel slayer with 2 snakes
     
  3. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    And what’s the msrp, $40?
     
  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Not KBBS? :disappointed
     
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  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    So what part in this collab did Binny’s play? Do they pay for the right to be an exclusive retailer? Old Hickory’s Lindley Park was a Bestway collab, but it was available most everywhere here, so what was in it I don’t have a clue. Roger was friends with the Old Hickory crew so perhaps this is different or maybe not.
     
  6. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I’d assume they are providing the barrels - probably from “handpicked” barrels of a particular whiskey that ended up being bottled as a “whiskey_name Storepick”.
     
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  7. Lorddevn

    Lorddevn Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2019 Wisconsin
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    Binnys supplies the barrels. If you read the label posted it appears like no adjuncts. States that it’s a chocolate fudge brownie taste with barrel too it
     
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  8. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    What are you basing that assumption on?

    Because that sounds like bs to me. They've saved up all the "Binny's picks" barrels for years and then sent them to TG? You do know they need to be refilled asap to stay usable right?

    Binny's doesn't do nearly enough store picks to make that possible / reasonable.


    EDIT: unless it's like 3 bourbon barrels and this is super limited. MAYBE if this is a tiny release that is possible.

    EDIT2: and this being Toppling Hypeliath, maybe that is what they are trying to do. Giving lots of people a chance to try and objectively rate their beers, is millions of miles away from their apparent "game plan" Apologies I sounded like a d!ck.
     
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  9. Lorddevn

    Lorddevn Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2019 Wisconsin
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    https://tenemu.com/news/toppling-go...n-barrel-slayer-barrel-aged-stout/08/2019/amp

    Binnys supplied the barrels. Calm down about TG they produce solid ass stouts. I’ll be interested in where they release it, but if I miss out could care less focused on the KBBS and bottle logic release (my speculation)
     
  10. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    You ever been to a Binnys or know what it is?

    They most certainly do do enough store picks to use the barrels for BA stout release and they have done several of them in the past including with specific barrels, and general barrel aged stouts.
     
  11. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I read this all the way through, and it was quite amusing to see the edits. No worries :slight_smile:.

    BTW, if you are not aware, this is how The Wine and Cheese Place gets their SP allocation of BA beers. I mean, it exclusively, but they get a portion of any BA beer made by SP that went into a barrel they received from TWCP.
     
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  12. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    I sure do. How many 'store barrels' of Bourbon do you think they sell per year? Hundreds? I don't think so. I just looked it up and while they have more locations than I thought they did, they still aren't selling through barrels that quickly nor are they even offered that many from the major distilleries.

    Like I said, if they are filling and emptying let's say 12 bourbon barrels, that's not very much. Do we need a thread in Beer News & Releases every times someone fills ? And I quote: "Not for region specific items"


    Haha had a couple beers. Do we need a thread in Beer News & Releases for every SP beer? That 's a collaboration with TWCP and brewery only (or that store only)? I don't think so.


    My point was that this is Regional Specific Item, and there's no chance they have enough bourbon barrels, that have been sold by Binny's, to make it a release worthy pf BN&R. If that was worded poorly, apologies.
     
  13. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    Hey man, don't be salty you can't have this, you guys get good beers over there, too. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Your logic is quite reasonable above but neglects a few possibilities. For example, we do not have direct access to the number of fresh used barrels they themselves empty. Second we do not have access to knowing that they did not make a special purchase of fresh barrels especially for this type of event. Sometimes folks do plan well in advance for things such as this.

    BTW, In the event you consider a thread inappropriate you might find it more effective and less stressful results in the long run if you simply report the thread and lets the mods take care of it. I can assure that there are reasons to believe they do it and fairly quickly. Then you can relax, move on, and not have any concern or stress.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    You checked out their website? Yea, a lot of their store picks never see the website let alone the shelves. Considering I'm in one or two of their stores at least once a week I can tell you they have a lot more store picks than are ever posted on their website. Not only do they have store picks of specific barrels, but they've started doing their own blends - for example Buffalo Trace - where they pick a bunch of barrels and blend them for a more cost efficient "store pick" thats still different than the generic bottle. (Don't care to get into the bourbon side of that mess).
    @drtth beat me to it, but if you think this shouldn't be in the general release thread (which I agree it shouldn't be and was kind of surprised to see it here and not in the GL forum) then report it and ask a mod to move it.

    On the flip side, the basis I can see for leaving it here is that I am sure for the people into that sort of thing, this will be a very tradeable beer for people outside of Binnys footprint.
     
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  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    This is very interesting to learn that the retail business they operate is so wide spread and doing so well. (We don't have them around here.) I don't really see how they could or would afford to do that themselves without a high volume of sales. (Lots of facilities, inventorying, skilled job hires, etc.) If they couldn't afford it and make a profit they'd source it from someone else. (Makes me wish I'd bought some of their stock back in the day--assuming they have shares on the market.)
     
  17. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    I'm looking for clarification. Binny's never actually takes possession of any barrels, after tasting they just select the ones they like at the distiller's barrel house and then the contents eventually wind up in a bottle with some sort of "selected by Binnys" verbiage on it. Right? BInny's isn't emptying barrels into bottles in the back of their store....
     
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  18. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Yea, they are a behemoth here in IL. they have 40 stores spanning most of the state except the far southern portion (south of Springfield) and the far northwest corner (Rockford down to Quad Cities area). And they're opening a couple new ones this year.
     
  19. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Correct. But the empty barrels are Binny's property and they can do what they want with them assuming they pick them up from the distillery. A Buddy of mine bought a Four Roses barrel and he went and picked up the barrel and a bunch of cases of bottled bourbon.
     
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