Stoneface is making an American Adjunct Lager

Huh? There are lots of examples of craft brewers incorporating corn, rice or "big beer" themes into their lager programs to make plussed up versions of AALs. Industrial Arts does one as their summer seasonal every year and it's frequently the best of the series. Tired Hands (before they were cancelled at least), Founders with Solid Gold, etc were all putting out beers in this model. Hell, a solid Narragansett is often better than the "craft" lager at the places I frequent.

Not clear from your post but did you actually try it on it's merit? If not you may be missing out. Judging beers based on how the macros use certain ingredients is short changing a lot of the innovation going on these days.

 

As was already asked above: did you even give the beer a try?

I would recommend that you give this thread a read:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...sner-pre-prohibition-lager-beer-style.660154/

Cheers!

 

Craft-brewed AALs are awesome. This isn’t even a new phenomenon in craft beer. I had a couple this summer that I loved and highly recommend, including Happy Village at Bunker Brewing in Portland, ME. Awesome beer.

As far as the negative experience with the staff at the taproom, consider giving the place a break. The food service is having an extremely difficult time staffing their establishments. Service has been a bit off at even the most trusted places this summer.

 

Industrial Arts Summer Landscape 21' was an AAL, and it was great.
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/42049/551861/

 

Pretty sure corn and rice have a looong history of being used in brewing, even before the Budweiser's of the world.

 

Grimm, literally one of the best breweries in the world, makes an AAL. As others have pointed out, so do many other incredible craft breweries. There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing so, ESPECIALLY since making that style will serve as a bridge for many people into actual craft beer from just drinking AALs exclusively.

That comment coupled with the snarky aside about "the staff on duty" says quite a lot about you as a person, and buddy, none of its good.

 

For those wondering like me... AAL = American Adjunct Lager. Didn't realize the abbreviation was so commonly used. Feel like this is the first time I've ever seen it.

 

Yeah, I’m a little confused why you’d be upset that they’re brewing an AAL. If you’re thinking they’re going to replace their IPAs, they won’t. You may hope that they don’t continue in this direction. If that direction is breweries offering more lighter lagers to round out their IPA heavy portfolio, I’m all for it.

 

I'd rather hear the story about the issue with the staff before rushing to judgement about the person posting. Sometime the problem is actually the staff.

 

Why are so many BAers opposed to variety? Seems to be a common theme in many threads.

 

Come on, man. Your rush to judgement about him as a person certainly doesn't come off any better than his rush to judgement about a brewer's beer.

I took a glance at the OP's post history because it was clear to me from this thread that he was a bit of a Rip Van Winkle (no offense OP)... and those posts quickly confirmed it. I wouldn't expect others to do the same, but then don't rush to judgement either.

@PrimustheOne started drinking "craft" beer back in the 80s and left the scene for health reasons. He considers craft beer to be anything other than an AAL, and his reaction to this brewer's AAL is obviously a reflection of an earlier time in craft beer - a reaction that would have been ordinary then. He claims that back in the day on BA, people mocked him for liking wheat beers. I guess the list of acceptable beers have changed over time but the attitude here is the same... both in the sense of PrimustheOne knocking AALs and people here knocking him back.

 

Sometimes you just want to be like Don Draper and crack an ice cold AAL in your shed while you're supposed to be building your kid's swing set.

 

You won the internet today, hands down.

But as far as AALs like Bud or High Life go, the biggest problem for me has always been the need to have the beer ice cold. When cold, it's not awful. If the stuff isn't served extremely cold, it is, well, something else entirely. I wonder what a craft-brewed AAL is like when it is out of the fridge for thirty minutes?

 

Nah, I stand by it. People that rant unprompted about "the help" or "the staff on hand" are almost universally the people that make life absolute hell for servers, retail staff or people in any sort of customer-facing profession. I'm 34 and I can count on a couple fingers the amount of times I've had true shit service at a brewery, bar or restaurant and only one of those places do I actually even remember the name of. Which is all just to say that the overwhelming amount of the time it's the customer's fault, not the staffs, and rants about "the service" tend to be much more indicative of the person ranting than the staff.

 

I don't see the problem with a craft brewer doing an Adjunct Lager (AAL). These will never crowd out other beers, maybe at most taking a tap handle here and there where the clientele desires it. I drank AAL regularly for almost 30 years and never ran across one I loved. I drank Huber Premium, Walters, Blitz Weinhard, Heidelberg, Yuengling, US Tuborg, Blue Ribbon, Schaefer, etc., etc.. They were almost by definition average, a few rising to being "pretty good". The craft brewers are virtually prohibited from offering a distinctive product in this segment (it wouldn't fit the definition). Variations in flavor are so slight that they can't easily be used in a marketing push.

 

Ok with it, they tend to experiment a ton anyways

 

Surprised no one mentioned the Nite Lite series from Nightshift.

I have a bigger issue with breweries making hard seltzers. At least adjunct lagers are beer.

 

I wanted to get my hands on some Night Heavy but haven’t seen it around.