New Beer Weekend #98

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Let’s Drink!

    Now that it is the weekend it is time to drink a beer that is new to us and tell others all about it. Tell us what the beer looks like, smells like, tastes like,…

    For you regulars you know the drill.

    Hopefully we will have a few newcomers join the party.

    Also, please share with us any beer (or non-beer) stories. We want to know!

    Now:

    Let’s get Czech’d Out!

    The new beer this weekend is Workhorse Czech’d Out - Czech Style Pilsner.

    This is a new brand from Workhorse and they took the ‘extra step’ of installing a Luke side-pull faucet to pour this beer at the brewery’s taproom. I enjoyed a couple of draft glasses at the taproom so I decided to purchase a four-pack for my home drinking pleasure. For today’s discussion I will ‘kick it up a notch’ and conduct a side-by-side tasting with my homebrewed batch of Bohemian Pilsner (I brew a batch every year).

    Below are some details from Workhorse for their beer:

    “Brewed with Bohemian Pilsner malt, this traditional Czech Pilsner has a crisp, clean complex malt character of white bread. The use of Saaz hops gives this golden-blond lager a pleasant herbal and floral aroma with a slight hop bitterness.”

    For my homebrewed batch of Bohemian Pilsner:

    · Mostly Weyermann Bohemian Pilsner Malt but also there is some Weyermann Vienna Malt for depth of color/flavor and augmenting the body of the beer

    · Sterling Hops for the bittering addition

    · Czech Saaz hops generously used for both flavor and aroma additions

    · Bohemian Lager yeast (the Czech Budejovice Lager Yeast strain)

    While the ingredient list is simple the brewing process for making a Pilsner (lager) is not so simple – lots of process steps needed.

    Served in my Polish Pilsner glasses:

    Appearance:

    Workhorse Czech’d Out: Golden yellow with a BIG white head. The head retention was just OK.

    Jack’s BoPils: Golden yellow with a BIG white head. The head retention was excellent forming a beautiful Belgian Lace as the beer is consumed.

    Aroma:

    Workhorse Czech’d Out: Mostly a sweetish Pilsner Malt aroma but some herbal/spicy hop aroma in the background.

    Jack’s BoPils: A vibrant combination of bready Malt and spicy/herbal aromas.

    Taste:

    Workhorse Czech’d Out: The first thing that strikes you is a strong taste of bitterness. Once the bitterness dies down a bit there are some flavors of bready malt and herbal/spicy hop flavors.

    Jack’s BoPils: The flavors follow the nose with notable flavors of bready and spicy/herbal. There is a moderate bitterness.

    Mouthfeel:

    Workhorse Czech’d Out: Medium body with a dry finish.

    Jack’s BoPils: Medium body, a soft mouthfeel and a dry finish.

    Overall:

    Workhorse Czech’d Out: I enjoyed drinking this beer but it lacked balance with the bitterness very much dominating the sensory aspects with malt flavor and hop flavor playing second fiddle so to speak. But overall, a good – very good beer.

    Jack’s BoPils: This beer is also very good - excellent. In contrast to the Workhorse beer this beer is very well balanced between the malt flavors and hop flavors.

    My wife was watching me as was conducting this side-by-side taste test. She requested a taste of both beers (she was doing this blind). I told her since I had an ‘extra’ beer she could have one. She selected Jack’s BoPils.

    Cheers!

    @rotsaruch @RobH @KOP_Beer_OUtlet @erway @Bierman9 @RBCBrams17

    P.S. Later today (this afternoon) I will be attending the Logjammin’ Lager Fest in Philly where I will be enjoying more Pilsners (and other Lagers) from a number of breweries. I am looking forward to drinking the Lagers from Bierstadt Lagerhaus, Schilling Beer Co., The Seed, Wild East Brewing Co., Trauger Brewing, and a long list of my local favorites.

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  2. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    I know you won’t be reviewing all the new beers at logjammin’ @JackHorzempa bug how about a recap/highlights later?

    I really wanted to attend but we are on our way to storybook land for my nephews birthday…oh well we will make good family memories.

    I had Schillings schwarzbier last week and loved it and may have another Schilling for this weekend.

    Enjoy the fest and see you all later today! Happy New Beer Weekend.
     
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  3. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Good morning, Weekenders, and thanks to @JackHorzempa for kicking things off. I always enjoy Jack's home brew reviews, and when it's a side-by-side, it's even better!

    I won't be joining until this afternoon. Alas, this morning's "new" beer (Bakery Cherry Pie) turned out to be a beer I reviewed two years ago. I concur with my review from then (4.08 / -2.2%), with one exception: this time, I get a ton of cherry on the nose this time around! I'm not adjusting my score, as that's not something I do except under pretty specific circumstances, but I'd say 4.08 tracks pretty well with my experience right now.

    Until later, cheers!
     
  4. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    Good morning all. And thank to @JackHorzempa for getting the train rolling. Had this late last night, but couldn't type due to a nephew crashed out on the couch. But, I think I remember somebody here, in the last few weeks, lamenting about wishing they could come across more Dortmunder export lagers. Well, I stumbled upon one that I enjoyed immensely.

    New Normal by Smog City

    16 oz can.
    Wow, she pours a crystal clear golden beauty. Fluffy white head, rises 2 fingers in elevation and slowly recedes to a thin cap. Good retention with slight lacing.
    Nose starts with a smooth, mildly sweet grain note, followed by a tantalizing floral spice note that is both peppery and citrusy.
    Flavor is all of the above and more. The grain note is more nuanced with a hint of toasted bread. All is really blended well together to form a cohesive, blissful drink. So balanced. Could crush these all summer.
    Mouthfeel is on the light side, but not thin. Moderate carbonation keep it all moving, and the finish starts a tad sweet and then closes thing out with a drying, slightly bitter kiss goodbye.
    4.14/5 rDev +0.5%
    look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
    by 2beerdogs from California
     
  5. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    Hey what's going on?!

    and how ironic is it that we go all get czeched out on this beautiful nice weekend.

    So without further adieu, let's get into a new beer for our hero.

    Listed as czech pilsner on the site, not sure if it fits the bill but I can buy into it!

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    Poured from the can into a Libbey style pilsner glass.

    Hints at some slight haze, but has a wonderful lemon straw glowing body color. Large amounts of linear carbonation, nearly bordering on soda pop but just less enough, and slow enough to stay with some beer attitude. Bright white two finger head, kind of soupy and a big bubbled crown collar and puck.

    Large malt aroma. Big hints of dry bread, very cracker like, and dare I say it crisp like a sense of potato chips. Mild sense of malt sweetness as well, not much hop character, but also clean and classic. Big bold and dense.

    The palate moves forward nicely as anticipated. Still lots of crackery dryness, in fact almost too dry. Body gets a bit weak with just a little excessive carbonation flattening the malt profile. Still much of the bakery and crispness clean flavor is undeniable. Light hinting herbal on the finish, with a bit of malt sugar as well.

    Pretty decent light lager. Some minor tweaking and I think his could be exceptional.

    look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4 | BA Generated Score: 4.04

    Cheers!
     
  6. Mdog

    Mdog Pooh-Bah (2,539) Jan 7, 2004 Minnesota
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    Thanks to JackHorzempa for kicking it off this morning.

    It's kind of spring-like this morning, 50's and crisp. How about a maibock?

    Indeed Springbier
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    Appearance: Clear yellow, good head.

    Smell: Hay.

    Taste: Starts with some breadiness, then mild sweetness, and a hay/grassy finish. Medium-light feel.

    Overall: A nice maibock from Indeed, not particularly sweet or boozy (that's good!), just a solid bready-grassy beer. Indeed has some sneaky good lagers.
     
  7. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Cycle Brewing -- Saturday (2022)
    American imperial stout ("A special blend of barrels")
    ABV: unavailbale; pouring temperature: 45 °F

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    4.37/5 rDev +0.2%
    look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

    Dark, blackish-brown body, opaque; wispy yet lasting head, tan colored. Rich chocolate and cocoa smell infused with bourbon richness; roasted and charred grain notes. Huge chocolate and bourbon taste; caramel and a hint of vanilla; little hop bitterness; cocoa and fudge. Heavy, viscous body; dense and chewy; immense residual sugar slipperiness; mild to moderate alcohol warmth.

    I love this beer! It's dense and chewy with an extremely well-balanced taste. The mouthfeel is killer. The fact that adjuncts weren't used is a definite plus in my book. Just an incredibly complex and enjoyable barrel aged stout.

    Pouring temperature: 45 °F

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    ...my one gripe with Cycle is that they don't list the ABV on a lot of their beers. Perhaps with the multiple blending sources, they just can't give a definitive answer to this. Still, I sent a message to them asking why this is so. I'll post my answer once I get a response...otherwise, this is an outstanding beer to start out my Saturday with...it's a beautiful day and Colorado Springs has modified their burn restrictions (as of yesterday) to now allow smoking (i.e., charcoal and wood burning for cooking), so I may be grabbing a bunch of salmon, sausage, and other meats to smoke over this coming week)...but for now, Rocket the Wonder Dog and I soon will be enjoying some homemade hot wings for lunch...
     
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  8. lordofthewiens

    lordofthewiens Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,225) Sep 17, 2005 New Mexico
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    Thank you, @JackHorzempa for starting this off.
    I'm having a busy weekend. My oldest daughter and her two boys moved here this weekend, into a house down the street (within walking distance) from me. She and the boys have been here a couple days, and her furniture arrived today. My wife and I are very happy and excited with the move, looking forward to being more involved with the boys.
    My new beer for today is Hazy Beer Hug from Goose Island, a decent IPA.

    A hazy yellow/orange color. Thick, fluffy white head with some lace.
    Fruity aroma.
    Taste of orange, pineapple, and mango.
    Not very bitter.
    A good summer quaff.

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  9. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    ...and a very quick reply from Cycle Brewing about the ABV (the Reader's Digest version: they just don't know):


    Info [email protected] via netorg5304821.onmicrosoft.com
    10:27 AM (12 minutes ago)

    to me

    Hi Dave, the answer is actually slightly complicated but the short version is that we just don’t know it.

    Something we have learned over the years is that high terminal gravity beers have some problems with measurements using basic tools like hydrometers because the density of the liquid will keep things like yeast in suspension, like humans float better in the Dead Sea, yeast floats better in dense liquids and what we actually get with too much junk in suspension are inaccurate readings because there is enough detritus to affect the bouyancy of the hydrometer. That said, with enough time solids do sink but that can be an exceedingly long time leading to gravities going up and down depending when you take them. We are still within a range and have a pretty ok idea, within 1 point probably of the ABV of the base stout as it goes into the barrel.

    The next thing that happens after the beer goes into the barrel is is gains some amount of alcohol depending what the proof of the spirit that was in the barrel was and how much of that liquid there is both sitting with the char I the bottom and soaked into the wood. Every barrel is different.

    The aging process we haven’t found a lot of information in the beer world relating to ABV changes over time, so while it would make sense there is a difference between the same beer aged for 1 year vs 3 years, we don’t know what that is only that we do lose volume over time.

    Lastly, we take the barrels, taste them, and then select them to be blended. To this point we have:

    A pretty good guess on the ABV when it went into the barrel

    No clue what the proof of the spirit was, or any way to measure how much of that spirit there is in the barrel.

    Some volume change over time.

    A blend of barrels containing beers from different batches, with all those questions for each barrel.

    This leads us to the conclusion that without a very fine piece of equipment like an alcolyzer which can pretty well measure the alcohol content of truly finished product we are doing better than throwing darts blindfolded because we know the potential for alcohol but we can’t state the ABV with the confidence required to list it on the label. Since the government has seen fit to not require this information on labels, and there is a penalty if you do publish it and you are wrong, we have opted not to publish and we can offer an approximation for inquiring minds, and the certainty that it is above a certain % that requires caution when consuming responsibly. Any small brewery aging their beer in barrels and not using a very expensive piece of equipment to measure the ABV of the product in the package is partly or mostly guessing and lying to themselves if they think they aren’t. It is eye opening to get actual lab tested ABV’s, which is how we learned how little we knew about ABV and barrel aging. The industry standard is to assume a lot of things that it turns out aren’t reliably true at all.

    Hope this helps, we usually state them at 11 or 12% for different export tax purposes because we think it’s pretty close based on the beers we did get tested but if they ever tested and came back and said we were be wrong, I would not be surprised.

    Take care

    Doug

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    ... @JackHorzempa - I'm sure you'll enjoy this...
     
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  10. jkblr

    jkblr Grand Pooh-Bah (5,132) Nov 22, 2014 Indiana
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    Good morning NBW and thanks to @JackHorzempa for kicking things off. Looks like I chose my first beer correctly for this thread.
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    500mL bottle marked L1351(I was hoping Dec 2021, but it must have been stored at a very high temperature to be this degraded) labeled as Světlý Ležák 11° poured into a becher glass at fridge temp 4.8% ABV per label. The beer pours hefe-hazy light amber in color with a ton of floaties left in the bottle on a careful pour. Light khaki head that recedes to a thin ring and island leaving a few spots of lacing. The aroma is mild with sweet, bready malt and hints of grass also. The taste is malty and grassy with slight oxidation. Minimal bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with just less than average carbonation and a semi dry finish. Cleanly lagered. Overall, first pour is good. Chunky second pour is going to the compost. Age and room temperature storage have definitely impacted this beer. Would try again if fresh or on draft.

    I have quite a few new beers lined up for this weekend. Should be fun. Cheers all!
     
  11. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    Out in the boonies today visiting family. Beer out of a plastic cup, the only option at the hockey bar.

    Tighthead Chilly Water

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    BA Info:
    Pale Ale, 4.8% ABV

    Appearance: 16 oz draft pour into a plastic cup. Mostly clear tan orange base, nominal carbonation, egg white lacing leaves rings of lacing and a cover over the base. 4.0

    Aroma: Citrus hops leads, tropical fruit follows. Mild in strength. 3.75

    Taste: Follows aroma, citrus, pine, mango, grapefruit, pineapple. Light to medium bready malt, in the right measure. Solid bold flavor. 4.25

    Mouthfeel:
    Firm bitterness, light to mild dryness, nice balanced flavors. Drinks light in terms of ABV, light bitterness lingers, enjoyable. 4.25

    Overall:
    This is a solid pale ale that drinks like an IPA flavor and strength wise. Really balanced, nice bitterness. Would love to pick this up down the road. Solid pale ale. 4.25

    Cheers!
     
  12. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (4,265) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
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    This beer features NZ107 and Vic Secret hops. Kveik yeast. The color is beautiful, thick, juicy-looking yellow-orange, with a light bright white ceiling. The smell is very pleasant and strong, with scents of oranges, grapefruit, lemons, and limes. The taste is slightly bitter, yet sweet, with tropical flavors of oranges, lemons, limes, and grapefruit. The mouthfeel is quite thick, yet soft, rich, and bubbly, like a bit of sparkling water was added. Overall, I really like this beer, but not as much as a number of other Drekker Brewing NEIIPAs. It is a great beer to have right now in this beautiful weather.
     
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  13. jkblr

    jkblr Grand Pooh-Bah (5,132) Nov 22, 2014 Indiana
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    Moving right along
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    Val-Dieu Grand Cru
    11.2oz bottle Best before end 27/05/23 poured into a teku glass at 50° Fahrenheit 10.5% ABV 19 IBU per label. The beer pours dense medium to dark brown with light brown head. The head recedes to a thin ring and island leaving behind some rings of lacing. The aroma is mild, yet rich, with sweet, bready malt, dark fruit and notes of dry red wine. The taste is semisweet burnt sugar caramel, blackberry, cherry, and oaky, dry red wine. Minimal bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium plus bodied with average carbonation and a semi dry finish. No hint of the ABV in the aroma or taste. Overall, very good.

    Cheers all!
     
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  14. Roy_Hobbs

    Roy_Hobbs Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jan 21, 2017 Connecticut
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    Beautiful day here in New England. I'm hoping to enjoy several new beers today, and with any luck, more tomorrow.

    First up is Bellweiser, from Bellwoods Brewery. I've had several Bellwoods beers, all courtesy (including this one) of @Coronaeus, and have enjoyed them all. I suspect that trend will continue.
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    Clear, light straw with loads of foamy white head that showed excellent retention and lacing. Aroma is spot on, with plenty of lightly sweet grain, grass and biscuit notes. This beer both looks and smells like the kind of beer it's hard to have just one of.

    The brewer's description, which states in part "....showcasing a pale malt body, firm bitter backbone..." is spot on. The floral bitterness isn't in your face, but it's definitely present in a well balanced way. Some nice peppery spice on the back end rounds out the primary notes of grain. Crisp, clean and quaffable, just as I hoped it would be! Thanks, Peter!

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    Side Note: @beergoot credit to Cycle Brewing for giving you such a comprehensive response so quickly.
     
  15. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    ...I've had some incredible responses from numerous breweries, especially when talk and speculation appear on various BA forums about certain beers or breweries, yet no one seems to ask the brewery directly about the question in point. Perhaps my best experience was the personal phone call I got from the head of brewing operations from Oskar Blues regarding the reformulation of Mama's Lil Pils. Seriously, I would think someone in that position would have better things to do with his time than to make a personal phone call to an unknown beer drinker on a Saturday and devote 30 minutes of his time talking about the question let alone brewing and beer in general...

    ...sure, such personal and in-depth responses don't happen all the time, but from my experience, most breweries will make a valid attempt to answer bonafide questions about their products...Cycle Brewing (Doug) certainly falls into this exceptional class of answering questions above and beyond...
     
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  16. GreenBayBA

    GreenBayBA Grand Pooh-Bah (4,265) Aug 30, 2015 Wisconsin
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    Petskull Brewing River Point Copper Ale. From Manitowoc, WI. The land of @scream and Making a Murderer. Nice dark bronze/copper color, with frosting that quickly evaporates. The smell is clean bready sweet malt. It has a slight cherry scent, with a buttered brown bread aroma. The flavor is that of Roman Meal bread, peat, malt, rye bread, and caramel. The mouthfeel is that of a well-made brown ale, bready, chewy, and rich. Very satisfying. Overall, this is exactly what you want in a beer from Manitowoc, WI. This is a beer you put in your lunchpail when you help your friend put on a new roof, then you go for a fish fry that evening.
     
  17. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Will Karl Hungus be making a special appearance at the Logjammin' Festival?
     
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  18. Roy_Hobbs

    Roy_Hobbs Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jan 21, 2017 Connecticut
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    New beer #2 also comes courtesy of @Coronaeus. Peter, you're probably tied up with kids all weekend, so I'm doing some drinking for you!

    This is Saint-Laurent, a Kolsch style beer from Brasserie Silo in Montreal.
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    Quite similar in appearance to the Bellweiser pilsner I reviewed a bit ago from Bellwoods Brewery. Straw colored and quite clear, with loads of medium density white head with good retention and excellent lacing. Aroma is pleasant, but largely unremarkable. Faint grains, but not a ton going on on the nose.

    On the tongue, it's light, semi-sweet malts with some floral characteristics. Subtle bitterness, and faint bread notes. Body is light to medium. Smooth going down.

    Overall, good, easy drinking beer, which is exactly what a Kolsch should be.
     
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  19. Victory_Sabre1973

    Victory_Sabre1973 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,445) Sep 15, 2015 Minnesota
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    Hello New Beer Weekend!!!

    Done with work for today, and it's time for a new brew, and it's the last new one I picked up on my trip to Fergus Falls last Sunday.

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    Postman's Breakfast - Oatmeal Stout - Fergus Brewing Co. - 5.7% ABV

    I do like a good oatmeal stout, and this is working for me today. Darker chocolate flavor, with some lactose on the back, but, there's also a slight bitterness that cuts the sweet of the lactose a bit. Overall a good beer, and I'm glad I bought it.


    Review:
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/57802/447259/#lists

    3.81/5 rDev +31.4%
    look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
    by Victory_Sabre1973 from Minnesota

    This beer pours a nice dark brown color. The head is 3 finger and tan. The head is fairly long lasting with some lacing on the glass.
    The aroma isn't too strong, but I do get some chocolate on the nose.
    The flavor is chocolate up front, and it's more of a dark chocolate. The back side has a creamy flavor. I would wager lactose was added, but oats could also be in play here. There's also a bitterness that hits that mellows out the sweetness from the lactose.
    The body is decent. Not too thin. Some creamy feeling in my throat.
    Not bad at all. Delicious overall.


    I'm sure I'll be back for another later today. If not, for sure tomorrow.
     
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  20. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    Greetings, fellow NBWers,

    The wettest spring on record in Spokanistan continues. Yesterday featured a brief violent thunderstorm that contained tears of god-type rain and swollen storm drains at every corner downtown (I'd made the mistake of trying to walk to a First Friday art show at a friend's workplace right when the skies cracked open - it had been a fine if humid day prior to that-and became a drowned rat). However, the repair work in the sewer line seems to have done the trick, as there was no repeat of the literally shitty events of the Monday before last, so perhaps I can dispense with maintaining a bathroom vigil every time it starts raining (which is damn near ever day this week).

    Right now it's raining yet again, but far less violently, with temperatures in the mid 50s. Last week we finally had a temperature above 70, which smashed the old latest day in the year before reaching that temperature record by about a week.

    I probably won't be making an appearance with a new beer on this thread until tomorrow, as I'm wandering over to Iron Goat ina little while for their 10th Anniversary party. I heard they've got an imperial amber that they've been aging in whiskey barrels, so I might pop in with a quick capsule review of that.

    I did finally drink pFriem's Bright Pale Ale yesterday and was not disappointed.
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    Bitter, citrusy, piney, dank beer, in the best sense of those words It went very well with the Meatball, Burrata & Basil Sandwich at Chowderhead (the smoked steelhead chowder was on point as well) that is seen in the foreground.

    Depending on how much I drink today, I may or may not be back with a new beer tomorrow. Perhaps I'll be sensible. Perhaps I'll see a Bugatti or a dinosaur. All are perhaps possible, but the track record argues against them. :grin:
     
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