Salute to Saisons! (2023)

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  1. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Welcome to another year of celebrating the lovely saison style and its various progeny and iterations.

    This thread is a place to share what saison(s) you're drinking, a description of what it's like, what you think of it, and also just general saison related discussion.

    Prior Threads:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/a-salute-to-saisons-2022.666112/

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/a-salute-to-saisons-2020-2021.643859/

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    I am kicking off my 2023 with a saison from one of my favorite saison breweries - Is/Was Brewing.

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    Is/Was - Saison de Non-Denomination
    Saison de Non-Denomination is a collaboration with our friends at Beer on the Wall. It is a rye saison base that we spiced with some traditional Belgian holiday beer spices including clove, allspice, crystalized ginger, mace, cardamom, and cinnamon.
    Pours a cloudy, but not opaque burnished orange color. Thin, spritzy off-white head. Aroma is dominated by spices - loads of ginger, allspice, clove, and cinnamon. The ginger is strong enough to lightly sting the nose.

    Taste follows the nose with that ginger dominating the palate along with some allspice, clove, a touch of lemon, orange and general tart citrus. Finish is dry and spicy. Feel is light to medium bodied. Sprightly carbonation. Dry finish.

    Overall this a rare miss for me from Is/Was. I usually love their saison's but this one just goes way too hard with the ginger.

    look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3 = 3.11 (rDev 0%)
     
  2. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    General shout-out to Yazoo Brewing in Nashville.

    I'd never heard of them before my first visit to that city in late 2022; however, they've been at it for 20 years. They brew all kinds of styles, but definitely carry a torch for saisons / brett beers / flanders red ales / wild ales, and the entry of their "Embrace The Funk" saison series I tried was real tasty.

    Can't wait to try more from them!
     
  3. AZgman

    AZgman Pooh-Bah (1,758) Dec 22, 2011 Arizona
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    Good: Saison Dupont (the gold standard)
    Bad: Wilderness Brewing Saison (this is basically a sour). They also brew a sweet potato saison, which IMHO is just a bad idea.
     
  4. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Saisons that trend sour or tart are certainly a thing - it all depends on the yeast being used. Like you however, I prefer a more restrained sour/tartness in my saisons if at all.
    ok, but that sounds awesome ... have you tried it?
     
  5. AZgman

    AZgman Pooh-Bah (1,758) Dec 22, 2011 Arizona
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    I have not tasted it, but I don't really care for sweet potatoes or their saison brewing style, so... as I stated, it is just my opinion!
     
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  6. augustgarage

    augustgarage Pooh-Bah (2,703) May 20, 2007 California
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    Perhaps my favorite style, but I do wonder if this thread is redundant with the Belgian Ale Appreciation thread now in existence?
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    My apologies upfront for being 'that guy'...

    A soured Saison is typically from the use of bacteria (e.g., Lactobacillus) used along with a Saison yeast strain.

    Tired Hands uses a mixed fermentation to produce their 'House' Saison: SaisonHands. I used to be a fan of this beer when they first produced it several years ago but their mixed culture must have 'evolved' over the years. That beer is presently more sour/tart than I prefer.

    Cheers!
     
  8. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    I don’t think so. Rather this thread is more focused on the Saison Family of styles.

    IMO, we should keep this thread, and ask the Belgian Ale Thread to differ here for Saisons. Not sour if that even needs to be policed, maybe just a suggestion so this thread doesn’t go stale.
     
  9. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    As I said in the previous threads the other years, it’s almost a tie between Saison Dupont and Tank 7, and if they were to be found so easily here would be in my top 5 styles all things considered.

    Here’s to drinking more Saison this year.
     
  10. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Nah, this is just for saisons and farmhouse style beers. The belgian beer thread is for any Belgian beer style.

    Sure, but I was more referring to the fact that some breweries' house yeast strains tend to produce a more tart/sour saison than others. Certainly adding in bacteria along with that can produce other changes as well.
     
  11. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    That sucks that Saison Dupont is not readily available where you live. There are several shops that regularly carry it in Chicago.

    I also co-sign on Tank 7 by Boulevard. More hoppy than a typical Saison, but works well for my taste preference.

    I usually am in Saison Hibernation until warmer weather, but hoping to catch both in LA and/or Vegas soon.
     
  12. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    Frank, I'm sure you've heard the buzz about Seedz Brewery by the Michigan / Indiana border by now (if you haven't already been there), and they have a Sweet Potato Saison on draft currently.

    It's pretty fucking good!
     
  13. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    I just picked up a 4 pack of 4 different Oxbow saisons at the store the other day. Had the Honey/Clover so far. Was a very traditional classic (like Saison DuPont but a touch of honey addition).
     
  14. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I picked up their green bottle saison last summer and loved it - would def be into trying the sweet potato saison!
     
  15. AZgman

    AZgman Pooh-Bah (1,758) Dec 22, 2011 Arizona
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    I have not had Tank 7 for a while now. I'll pick up some next week to revisit it.
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I look forward to reading what you have to say about this beer.

    I used to be a BIG fan of Tank 7 but my last four-pack purchase (about a year ago) was a disappointment since it was not that great. Maybe it was just a bad batch? Or maybe Tank 7 is just 'different' from how it was a number of years ago?

    Cheers!
     
  17. AZgman

    AZgman Pooh-Bah (1,758) Dec 22, 2011 Arizona
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    I was in the "big box" beer store today and had a six pack of Tank 7 in my hand when I noticed that they also had Collette (Great Divide), so based on Jack's pan of Tank 7 (and me remembering I didn't think it was fantastic when I had it last), I bought Collette instead.

    I found Collette to be quite good with a pretty mild sourness, some tangerine tartness, and some yeasty funk typical of a German wheat beer. The combo was quite good and I would recommend it over Tank 7.
     
  18. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Sounds great. I had a squash saison once that is still a top beer by me. Brewery closed but the beer lives in my head. If done in a good way a sweet potato saison with a bit of earthy sweetness should be real nice

    Enjoy
     
  19. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I really enjoy Colette, not see it in a long time. Biggest issue for me was the abv, much rather a low ABV and I think Colette was around. 7%. Same with henapin and many of the more popular saison.

    Two roads made a low ABV saison I liked. Can’t recall the name of It now.

    Any suggestion of low ABV saison send them my way


    Enjoy
     
  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Possibly Worker’s Comp
     
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