Trade Value Thread (2023)

IMHO opinion, it's a gray area. Discussing the trade value of bourbon that is. However, when someone asks what beer they can expect to obtain by offering a combination of rare bourbon and lambic, that sounds like someone possibly setting up a trade involving bourbon. So it seemed appropriate to simply remind everyone that that's no longer allowed.

No one's post was deleted and no one was penalized or reprimanded for their post. It was just a reminder.

And yes.... I've no doubt the moderation team likely misses blatant trade offers for bourbon all the time. The reasons for that should be fairly obvious. First, there aren't that many moderators on this site and we can't be everywhere at once. Second, we're not BA policeman and I don't think any of us enjoy deleting posts, telling members not to do something, or reporting misconduct to Todd. So none of us go looking for problems to solve. Typically, I only find out about a possible problem or infraction if someone brings it to my attention. Last, we're all adults and I don't think anyone needs to be instructed on what to do or not to do. I tend to do as little of that as possible.

I'm on this site for the same reason you are. I enjoy drinking and discussing beer, as well as helping out by providing information and assistance whenever requested. As a moderator, I'm also required to make sure members adhere to BA guidelines, rules/regulations and the code of conduct. I do that to the best of my ability, but I try to do as little of that as possible. That's not why I joined BA.

So please carry on.

Cheers!

 

My take is this.

If you want to discuss bourbon... prices, quality, where to find it, etc. there's a great thread for that over in the off topic forum.

My recollection is that this particular thread was created to discuss beer trading... generally, what will it take to obtain Beer A, assuming a certain set of parameters. At least that was my impression and understanding.

I get it that "discussing" how much bourbon it might take to procure certain limited beers (or vice versa) is not the same as actually making a trade offer. However, at least to my mind, it runs counter to the stated BA policy that this is a beer site, and that it's no longer kosher to make trade offers involving bourbon. Hence my original post..

That being said, it's not as if I'm infallible when it comes to interpreting the rules on BA. So let me run this by @Todd and get his take on this. I'll get back to you ASAP.

 

If someone is trading anything other than beer on this site, it should be reported and removed.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/beer-trading-rules-tips.229/

Same goes with talking about trading anything other than beer, which is pointless given the above.

 

Thanks Todd. That was my take as well.

 

We’re doing just fine, but thanks for your feedback.

Back to beer!

 

That's the impression I have as well and I don't get it. Yes, it's fun to try new things and I'm willing to make an effort to sample some of the higher rated beers, but I'm not willing to break the bank to do it. Aside from the expense, so far I haven't really been wowed by any of the top rated beers I've sampled. Most were certainly good, but generally I found myself wondering why anyone would pay several hundred dollars for a bottle.

The local beer scene here is pretty good (something I increasingly hear on BA), and it's affordable as well. Sure, I can afford to buy a bottle of KBBS for $500 or $600 (or whatever it's going for now), but for the life of me I can't imagine why I (or anyone else) would want to.

 

I won't pretend to say I understand everything you just said, but I get the gist I think and I'm sure you're probably right. For some people I know that's important, especially if they have an addictive personality anyway. However...

It just seems to me that there should be other, less expensive and less unreasonable ways to obtain that sort of high and feeling of power.

I guess I tend to see things more in terms of opportunity cost. For example...

I'm much more of a wine guy than a beer guy, and have been known to spring for an expensive bottle of wine. But it's always to drink it (not trade or sell it), usually with my wife and/or friends. It's also VERY infrequent. So when I'm at the Oakville market wine room and see a bottle of Coglin cab (which goes for around $600 a bottle), which I'm sure is good and I know is rare and highly desirable, I start to think in terms of bottles of Silver Oak (which I also know to be very good). I can buy close to a case of Silver Oak for a single bottle of Coglin, and that always keeps me from pulling the trigger.

But I guess people who are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a bottle of KBBS don't see the world that way.