Lichtenhainer has been added!

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Dec 13, 2025.

  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Thanks to a nudge from @HopBelT, I just added Lichtenhainer to the site!

    Entries for this historical, lightly smoky and sour, German wheat were all over the place, so I'm glad it finally has a home.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/249/
    • Moved as many as I could by beer name
    • It's going to take a while to move other entries over
    • Please submit a report for any beers that need an update
    • The top rated for impacted styles will automagically adjust within the next 24 hour
    And thanks to @steveh for pointing out this decade old BeerAdvocate magazine article on Lichtenhainer by @patto1ro. Check it out to learn even more!

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/11624/lichtenhainer/

    As always, I'm open to your feedback.

    Kippis! :beers::heavymetal:
     
  2. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Let the quest begin!
     
  3. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    YESSSSSSS!

    A few years ago during the middle of summer’s heat, I spent a couple weeks in Austin drinking the Lichtenhainer from Live Oak. Glad it’s been added!
     
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  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Just did some checking, and Fair State in MN has a Lichtenhainer, cleverly called Lichtenhainer. We get Fair State distribution here, and I see they last had it last spring. Slight chance it's still on shelves here. I just let Fair State know the style has been added to BA, and there may be an uptick in interest.
     
  5. scott451

    scott451 Pooh-Bah (2,694) Apr 2, 2009 Canada (ON)
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    This is a worthy add. A rare, but distinct style. I hope to try more.:+1:
     
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  6. BruChef

    BruChef Maven (1,277) Nov 8, 2009 New York
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    Would love to see more breweries make this style.
     
  7. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Same. And from the linked article, @patto1ro agrees: "I’m always happy to see a beer style rise from the dead. Especially ones like Lichtenhainer with distinctive features. Let’s hope it sticks around."
     
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  8. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Are Smoothie Sours next?
     
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  9. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Can’t we call it a North German Smoked Village sour or something? Lichtenhainer sounds like an act you’d witness if you stumbled into the wrong club in Berlin.
     
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  10. Phoodcritic

    Phoodcritic Pooh-Bah (2,082) Jul 3, 2014 Michigan
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    With this action, BA has revealed its cruel nature. After Happoshu was removed as a style, I made an irrational effort to find my final style, a traditional lambic. I didn’t realize that it would be truly difficult to find an unfruited lambic in the US, but I found one and was planning to celebrate with it TONIGHT! My evening is ruined, as it looks like I will spend it tracking down a rare style (that sounds dreadful—a smoky sour?) that nearly no US brewery makes. Thanks a lot, BA! :stuck_out_tongue::grin:
     
  11. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Excellent news! I moved a few over just now. I love this style, but don't see enough of them!
     
  12. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Happoshu was never a real style, it was a tax on low-malt beers.
     
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  13. REVZEB

    REVZEB Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,686) Mar 28, 2013 Illinois
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    I just had my first this year, had never heard of this style until then. Cool!
     
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  14. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    This is one style that I would agree with adding, even though I don't like them. So much different than a standard kettle sour, and prevalent enough that it's not just a curiousity.
     
  15. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    W00t! 10 years after I visited Rapp and learned about this brat & sauerkrat water!
     
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  16. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    This will be challenging to track down…..
     
  17. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Only 5 beers have been active this year lol.

    I wonder if Todd’s campaign will cause brewers to make this obscure style, or if we BA’s will hunt it down and start adding more. Over/under for 2026 at 15?
     
  18. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Zoiglhaus here in PDX makes one it appears, and Untapped seems to indicate it's currently on tap. Hmmmmm....
     
  19. muchloveforhops3

    muchloveforhops3 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,999) Apr 5, 2009 Montana
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    :rofl::rofl:
     
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  20. muchloveforhops3

    muchloveforhops3 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,999) Apr 5, 2009 Montana
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    Really appreciate all the recent efforts, @Todd :beers:

    I admittedly haven't heard of this style until now- the description makes me think Grodziskie but with an added sour element :thinking_face: Probably not something I'd see here in MT, but will keep an eye out for it when in Portland (thanks to @John_M for the Zoiglhaus tip :heavymetal:)

    Cheers!