Wheatwine - Under Appreciated or Terrible?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by CloudStrife, Jan 30, 2013.

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Wheatwine or Barleywine?

  1. Wheatwine

    40 vote(s)
    24.2%

  2. Barleywine

    125 vote(s)
    75.8%
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  1. CloudStrife

    CloudStrife Savant (1,219) Nov 20, 2008 New York

    Have tried a few wheatwines recently and been quite happy with the results. Looking back through the different wheatwines on this site I can recollect trying four. Pilgrims Dole, Triticus, Smuttynose and right now Graupel.

    I was surprised to see that there are only 33 in the top 50... The description has "A somewhat recent and over-looked American strong ale" So what are your thoughts? Would you like to see more breweries experimenting with Wheatwines or would their time be better spent with a more traditional Barleywine?

    Starting it off, I am all for more breweries trying this style. It would be great to try a bourbon barrel aged variant as well.
     
    #1 CloudStrife, Jan 30, 2013
  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    One of my favorite Washington brewed beers is Old Sol Wheatwine by Big Time Brewing. I love the style.
     
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  3. CloudStrife

    CloudStrife Savant (1,219) Nov 20, 2008 New York

    Looks like a mighty fine wheatwine... Seattle is where my roots are at so next time I'm home I will be on the hunt for some... Big Time.
     
    #3 CloudStrife, Jan 30, 2013
  4. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Maven (1,338) Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Very under appreciated!!
     
    #4 Jnorton00, Jan 30, 2013
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  5. Goosey

    Goosey Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2012 Missouri

    Bourbon barrel pilgrims dole was excellent, as well as perennial heart of gold. Harvest dance was very satisfying also. I say the more styles of beer in production, the better. They also age well.
     
    #5 Goosey, Jan 30, 2013
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  6. WagonCircler

    WagonCircler Zealot (623) May 15, 2011 New York

    I'm surprised that Ithaca 13 is not on your list.

    Its old, but still tastes pretty good today.
     
    #6 WagonCircler, Jan 30, 2013
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  7. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    To the OP:

    Go drink a Harvest Dance from Boulvard or a White Chocolate from the Bruery. Bad ass Wheatwines.

    Cheers!
     
    #7 FosterJM, Jan 30, 2013
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  8. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    That was a tasty beer.

    Cheers!
     
    #8 FosterJM, Jan 30, 2013
  9. zachary80

    zachary80 Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2009 Indiana

    I certainly don't see why the question has to be one or the other. Founders Nemesis (listed here as the 2009) was a delicious wheatwine. Other than that, the only one I'm sure I have had was Pilgrim's Dole (which I gave a 3.7). I've had countless better barleywines, but there are also far more on the market. I'd like to know why this is, whether it is had to brew a great example of, or just due to a lack of demand.
     
    #9 zachary80, Jan 30, 2013
  10. CloudStrife

    CloudStrife Savant (1,219) Nov 20, 2008 New York

    Good call, certainly is not one I have tried but would love to, Ithaca can hold down a brew. Got me thinking of numbers and another wheatwine I've had is Weyerbacher XIV. Have had the pleasure of two of them in the last few months. Great with some age!
     
    #10 CloudStrife, Jan 30, 2013
  11. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    I've had the Smuttynose, Harvest Dance from Boulevard, and 13 Hour Wheat from FT Collins. I thought they were decent to good but I'll take a good Barleywine style ale over any of them every time.
     
    #11 Bitterbill, Jan 30, 2013
  12. CloudStrife

    CloudStrife Savant (1,219) Nov 20, 2008 New York

    I should of phrased the question: What would you want to see your favorite brewery try a new version of?

    But that was ending a sentence in a preposition. :-0
     
    #12 CloudStrife, Jan 30, 2013
  13. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I love 'em but haven't found one that tops a top-notch barleywine.
     
    #13 ShogoKawada, Jan 30, 2013
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  14. 4kbrianb

    4kbrianb Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2013 California

    can't say I have actually ever tried a wheatwine... but thanks to you guys... it is on my beer bucket list for the month of February.
     
    #14 4kbrianb, Jan 30, 2013
  15. samoblue

    samoblue Crusader (428) Apr 26, 2006 California

    Ryewine 4 life.
     
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  16. Jerome1929

    Jerome1929 Zealot (533) Sep 11, 2008 Michigan

    I haven't had many but Short's Anniversary Ale is my favorite.
     
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  17. CloudStrife

    CloudStrife Savant (1,219) Nov 20, 2008 New York

    I can agree with that wholeheartedly but its a difficult comparison. This site lists 531 barleywines to 87 wheatwines. It is inevitable that there are better barleywines.
     
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  18. zachary80

    zachary80 Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2009 Indiana

    In that case, I'd love to see more wheatwines, at least as seasonal/special releases.

    Also, in response to that 'rule' which I hate: "Not only is the preposition acceptable at the end, sometimes it is more effective in that spot than anywhere else" - http://books.google.com/books?id=sj5_wr6zIEcC&lpg=PA112&ots=msb1sgR9kK&dq=Not only is the preposition acceptable at the end, sometimes it is more effective in that spot than anywhere else&pg=PA112#v=onepage&q=Not only is the preposition acceptable at the end, sometimes it is more effective in that spot than anywhere else&f=false


    Forgot this was a wheatwine - personally I found it least appealing of the three, but the blood orange also really separates it from the crowd
     
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  19. Wisconsin

    Wisconsin Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2008 Wisconsin

    I've only had one and liked it. Wish I could find more of them.
     
    #19 Wisconsin, Jan 30, 2013
  20. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2011 California

    If only it were that easy.
     
    #20 SeaOfShells, Jan 30, 2013
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