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Wheatwine - Under Appreciated or Terrible?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by CloudStrife, Jan 30, 2013.

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Wheatwine or Barleywine?

  1. Wheatwine

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  1. CloudStrife

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    Have tried a few wheatwines recently and been quite happy with the results. Looking back through the different wheatwines on this site I can recollect trying four. Pilgrims Dole, Triticus, Smuttynose and right now Graupel.

    I was surprised to see that there are only 33 in the top 50... The description has "A somewhat recent and over-looked American strong ale" So what are your thoughts? Would you like to see more breweries experimenting with Wheatwines or would their time be better spent with a more traditional Barleywine?

    Starting it off, I am all for more breweries trying this style. It would be great to try a bourbon barrel aged variant as well.
     
  2. beertunes

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    One of my favorite Washington brewed beers is Old Sol Wheatwine by Big Time Brewing. I love the style.
     
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  3. CloudStrife

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    Looks like a mighty fine wheatwine... Seattle is where my roots are at so next time I'm home I will be on the hunt for some... Big Time.
     
  4. Jnorton00

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    Very under appreciated!!
     
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    Bourbon barrel pilgrims dole was excellent, as well as perennial heart of gold. Harvest dance was very satisfying also. I say the more styles of beer in production, the better. They also age well.
     
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    I'm surprised that Ithaca 13 is not on your list.

    Its old, but still tastes pretty good today.
     
  7. FosterJM

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    To the OP:

    Go drink a Harvest Dance from Boulvard or a White Chocolate from the Bruery. Bad ass Wheatwines.

    Cheers!
     
  8. FosterJM

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    That was a tasty beer.

    Cheers!
     
  9. zachary80

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    I certainly don't see why the question has to be one or the other. Founders Nemesis (listed here as the 2009) was a delicious wheatwine. Other than that, the only one I'm sure I have had was Pilgrim's Dole (which I gave a 3.7). I've had countless better barleywines, but there are also far more on the market. I'd like to know why this is, whether it is had to brew a great example of, or just due to a lack of demand.
     
  10. CloudStrife

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    Good call, certainly is not one I have tried but would love to, Ithaca can hold down a brew. Got me thinking of numbers and another wheatwine I've had is Weyerbacher XIV. Have had the pleasure of two of them in the last few months. Great with some age!
     
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    I've had the Smuttynose, Harvest Dance from Boulevard, and 13 Hour Wheat from FT Collins. I thought they were decent to good but I'll take a good Barleywine style ale over any of them every time.
     
  12. CloudStrife

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    I should of phrased the question: What would you want to see your favorite brewery try a new version of?

    But that was ending a sentence in a preposition. :-0
     
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    I love 'em but haven't found one that tops a top-notch barleywine.
     
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    can't say I have actually ever tried a wheatwine... but thanks to you guys... it is on my beer bucket list for the month of February.
     
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    Ryewine 4 life.
     
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    I haven't had many but Short's Anniversary Ale is my favorite.
     
  17. CloudStrife

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    I can agree with that wholeheartedly but its a difficult comparison. This site lists 531 barleywines to 87 wheatwines. It is inevitable that there are better barleywines.
     
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    In that case, I'd love to see more wheatwines, at least as seasonal/special releases.

    Also, in response to that 'rule' which I hate: "Not only is the preposition acceptable at the end, sometimes it is more effective in that spot than anywhere else" - http://books.google.com/books?id=sj5_wr6zIEcC&lpg=PA112&ots=msb1sgR9kK&dq=Not only is the preposition acceptable at the end, sometimes it is more effective in that spot than anywhere else&pg=PA112#v=onepage&q=Not only is the preposition acceptable at the end, sometimes it is more effective in that spot than anywhere else&f=false


    Forgot this was a wheatwine - personally I found it least appealing of the three, but the blood orange also really separates it from the crowd
     
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    I've only had one and liked it. Wish I could find more of them.
     
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    If only it were that easy.
     
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    I prefer Rye Wine over both.
     
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    Touche. My apologies.

    Cheers!
     
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    This is new to me and very intriguing. I have always enjoyed RyePA's. What are some Rye Wines out there?
     
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    The wheatwines I've had are typically much sweeter and not as complex as most English Barleywines. It's a turn-off for a lot of people I've shared with.

    White Chocolate is no exception - it's a tasty beer, but damn it's really really sweet. Tastes like a Bruery/Southern Tier collab.
     
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    I'd like to see a list of them too.
     
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    My personal favorite, and while it might be listed as so on this website, is Rye-on-Rye from Boulevard. Also, Rye Wyne from Brau Brothers is pretty awesome, but expensive.
     
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    Yeah...I'll just run to the store real quick and grab one...brb...lol.
     
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    I choose neither. Both are terrible
     
  29. CloudStrife

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    That is a good point. The 50%+ wheat does give a very sweet taste to the beer. However funny you should mention Southern Tier as their sweeter beers are what really turned me on to craft beer. I am beginning to see a correlation here. Don't get me wrong I would be preferable to a more complex barley wine, just curious if other brewers could master this style.
     
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    I've generally found Wheatwines to be drier and have earthier grain flavors than Barleywines. Wheatwines are one of the few "big" beers I like during hot weather. I can't ever remember wanting a big, sweet, sticky Barleywine when I'm outside in the Summer, but Wheatwines hit that spot just right.
     
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    Portsmouth's Wheat Wine is amazing and better than any sweet barleywine I've ever had. To me, the hoppier barleywines are almost a different style altogether.
     
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    Boogoop was pretty great.
     
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    I've only had a sample of Harvest Dance, but I thought it was very good and am open to trying more beers from the style.
     
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    Not really the same thing...but it's in the ballpark...Three Floyds and Mikkeller did a buckwheat wine collab called Boogoop that I enjoyed immensely. My only experience with an actual wheat wine was Portsmouth Brewery's rendition...don't recall a name...but it was merely okay to me.

    EDIT: ...aaaaand FriarTuckInLuck beat me to the Boogoop lol.
     
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    Yup...and I'm wondering how the cellar is treating it...can't wait to try.
     
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    boulevards harvest dance is hard to beat for $8/per.

    drink it fresh. the citra hops fade a lot after a bit.
     
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    Generally prefer Barleywines but Jackie O's Bourbon Berry Grove was awesome! Not sure how reflective of Wheatwines in general it is though.
     
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    White oak sap from the Bruery is amazing!!!
     
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    Yup, didn't get a ton of love here but I gave it a 4.43. Delicious. Bought another to age and now it's retired, alas. :(

    Dope
     
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    33 in the top 50 what? I think Im missing something here.
     
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